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I wonder if Negro Casas has ever had a match with Ric Flair. Could you imagine both of them working opposite of each other at their primes? I remember watching Jericho's DVD and on one of the commentaries, he mentioned that he was trained by Casas and compared him to Flair.

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So I watched Negro Casas/El Dandy from July 92 last night and man alive was that amazing. It's a shame that wrestling fans seem to picture lucha as this mindless spotfest thing that's a couple notches below Dragon Gate when it's really quite the opposite. This match only had a couple missile drop kicks from Casas and El Dandy climbed the top rope to land on Casas on the outside and that was around the half hour mark. The rest of the match was some of the best mat work int he history of wrestling.

What I love about lucha mat work is that they are scientifically very sound, have some of the most innovative submissions and counters and are able to keep it incredibly entertaining and not dull at all whereas in the U.S. a lot of wrestlers struggle to keep the mat sections of their matches entertaining.

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Where did you find that match at? I definitely wanna see that one
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Where did you find that match at? I definitely wanna see that one
I found it at WKO. It's definitely one to seek out for sure. If I knew how to rip and upload matches, I'd put up quite a few classics on the forum. This place desperately needs more lucha.

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i have no clue what WKO is but someone definitely needs to tell you how to upload because you are right this site lacks a lot of really good lucha. I'm not as into the total spot fest stuff i want to see a lot more El Dandy and that kind of thing. The spot happy matches can be fun but in small doses
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You can download Casas/Dandy here; http://www.filecrop.com/el-dandy-vs.-negro-casas.html
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I've always felt that Blue Panther is Mexico's Ric Flair but I can certainly see the comparison between Casas and Flair.

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That 2 out of 3 falls from July 92 was awesome. I loved the build up. The crowd was hot. The referee and Negro Casas' corner man were feeding the match. I didn't know the match was 2 out of 3 falls until after the 1st commercial break, and I was bummed how it ended. I was pleasantly surprised to see the match continue. That was probably the first time I ever watch El Dandy outside of America, and that was only time I've seen Negro Casas' that I can remember. I'd give this match five stars for sure, and I'm looking forward to watching some more off that list Yeah1993 posted.
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This isn't exactly Stuff straight out of Mexico but most of its Lucha based

WWE - 24/7 - Shorties - Lucha Libre

- Note not all of the matches are shown in full so my ratings are effected.

1. June 23, 1989 - AWA - War In The Windy City
The Guerreros vs The Texas Hangmen & The Executioner
**

2. April 3, 1999 - ECW - Cyberslam
Super Crazy vs Mosco de la Merced
**1/2

3. April 7, 1997 - ECW
Taka Michinoku, Terry Boy & Dick Togo vs Great Sasuke, Gran Hamada & Masato Yakushiji
***1/2

4. April 25, 1978 - Championship Wrestling
Mil Mascaras, Larry Zbyszko & Haystacks Calhoun vs Strong Kobayashi, Tank Patton & The Golden Terror
*1/2

5. October 17, 1995 - ECW - 2 out of 3 Falls Match
Rey Mysterio vs Psicosis
***1/4-***1/2

6. October 26, 1997 - WCW - Halloween Havoc - Mask vs Title Match
Rey Mysterio vs Eddie Guerrero
****

7. November 21, 1982 - Madison Square Garden
Tiger Mask vs Jose Estrada
**1/4

8. January 23, 1996 - WCW - Clash of Champions 32
Konnan vs Psicosis
**3/4

9. May 26, 1997 - WCW - Nitro
Juventud Guerrera, Super Calo & Hector Garza vs La Parka, Ciclope & Damien
***

10. April 11, 1999 - WCW - Spring Stampede
Blitzkrieg vs Juventud Guerrera
***1/2
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Negro Casas/El Dandy/Hector Garza vs. El Hijo del Santo/Scorpio Jr./Bestia Salvaje [CMLL 11/29/96]
Coming a week after Santito's shocking heel turn, comes this amazing and bloody brawl. This has to be seen to be believed. How this wasn't on DVDVR's Top 20 Lucha matches of the 90s yet a ton of AAA matches were is beyond me.
"NEGRO CASAS/DANDY/HECTOR GARZA vs. HIJO DEL SANTO/SCORPIO JR/BESTIA SALVAJE - EMLL 11/96
(POGO PETE)
The grudge match coming off Santito's unthinkable rudo turn the previous week, and the tecnicos are out for his blood. This is the Brawl With It All - ungodly heat (when Santo hits the ring and mockingly blows kisses to the crowd, even the piss-poor Televisa audio mix can't hide the fact that these folks would like nothing better than to see his ass on a platter), insane violence (Santo rips a set of ringside chairs off its moorings so he can level a bloodied Dandy with them) and perhaps the ultimate death-for-your-pleasure highspot (Garza tries a Shooting Star Press to the floor and accidentally invents the German Air Show Senton in the process). Dr. Morales marks out about a half-dozen times, the crowd is at a froth the whole time, Bestia is in tears at the end and Negro LAUGHS IN HIS FACE like a maniac. Unbelievably intense and dramatic. American bookers should be strapped in their chairs and forced to watch this Clockwork Orange-style to see how to book revenge matches."

This sets up the classic El Hijo del Santo vs. Negro Casas vs. El Dandy the next month and then the mask vs. hair match a year later between Santo and Casas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0D43mxBlFg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfW4m...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVhYY...eature=related

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