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I think Hulk vs. Shingo is being put on too high a pedestal, I bet no one remembers it in a year while Shiozaki vs. Sasaki, Davey vs. Tyler and Taker vs. Michaels will be remembered for as long as WWE, NOAH and ROH are in business.
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I will remember it until the day I day
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Davey Richards vs. Roderick Strong 8/16/10 ROH on HDNet was better than their 20 minute draw and not to far behind their Titanica match.
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I also think people are overrating the MCMG vs. Beer Money matches... the highest I gave any of their bouts was ***3/4. I can agree that their PPV match + the Whole F'N Show match getting maybe ****, even ****1/4. But anything higher than that is a little mind boggling.
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I think Hulk vs. Shingo is being put on too high a pedestal, I bet no one remembers it in a year while Shiozaki vs. Sasaki, Davey vs. Tyler and Taker vs. Michaels will be remembered for as long as WWE, NOAH and ROH are in business.
I'm not going to argue which will be remembered more because it's meaningless, and as a frequenter of Other Wrestling, you should be ashamed. Awareness does not equal greatness, and the same applies in reverse...or have you never had to argue Danielson's awesomeness to someone who's only watched WWE/F? If 6/3/94 falls in a forest and no one's around to watch it, is it still awesome? Oh course it is. That's a ridiculous metaphor, but I think you get what I mean.

The honest truth is that no one on this forum will give two shits about Shingo/Hulk or Go/Sasaki at the end of the year because interest in both is extremely low thanks to NOAH's incredible attendance plummet and DG still bizarrely carrying the stigma of it being more Cirque du Soleil than wrasslin'. I really enjoyed Hulk/Shingo, I wouldn't watch Black/Richards again if you paid me, and as for Sasaki/Go..........



NOAH - 2010-07-24
Kensuke Sasaki vs. Go Shiozaki - ****

Let's get the obvious out of the way: yes, the botch was horrendous and killed what should have been an unbelievable nearfall. Yes, the chops were stiff as hell. Yes, Sasaki, when he's on, is still the fucking man. However, there were so many things in this match that had me pulling my hair out. Shiozaki looked like a moron...and I'm not just talking about his Phyllis Diller hairdo. Early on, Go & Kensuke exchange chops. Then, they start headbutting each other. I don't know why...they just do. People want chops, they dole out headbutts. In the middle of the match, Sasaki messes up Go's already injured bicep countering a lariat. Shiozaki's response? German Suplexes and Lariats. Go has a wicked Superkick but he elects to theoretically make the injury WORSE. Brilliant. He eventually wises up, but far too late. At the end, with Kensuke having thoroughly decimated Go, Shiozaki decides he wants to ALLOW Sasaki to chop him in the corner...cuz he's uh man. Manly man. A moron. This isn't Kobashi/Sasaki, two guys on near equal footing who are giving each other equal doses of pain. Here, one is clearly above the other, who has been badly smashed the entire contest. Sasaki drills him down with a few billion chops as Go looks like he's about to die...but Shiozaki is unfazed for some reason! Sasaki gets cornered. Does Go do something cool like repeated lariats, superkicks or even some sick rolling chops? NOPE. He does the same thing Sasaki did, but Kensuke barely flinches throughout and Go eventually loses...because he's a moron.

You're probably wondering why I gave this four stars after a pretty scathing review. Here's why: the chops were brutal, parts of the story worked, Sasaki really stiffed Go & it made for a really, really entertaining middle portion, and the actually finish after Go & Ken got done slapping each other was really nice. Extra points for teasing the Henkei Go Flasher and leaving room for more. However, this just failed on too many levels to push it into legit MOTY talk. He exhausted his move-set with eight to ten minutes left, made numerous storytelling mistakes, and came out no better than he came in: he lost the chop battle, the manliness battle, the Kobashi impression battle, and the match. I'm all for setting up a series of matches, but not at the expense of making one guy look like a clown, especially the guy that NOAH should be pushing as their future...if they even have one.


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meh, i was fine with Go trying to show that he was at Sasaki's level and failing. The chop battle in the corner with Go ASKING Kensuke to give him all he's got and surviving was cool as hell. Kensuke wanted to know if Go was up for the task, he enconraged him to do so but Go failed.

Considering that Go is probably gonna be the champ in next month show, it sets up a very interesting title match. Can he finally beat the mighty Kensuke Sasaki after 5 years of clearly being inferior?

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I've searched for Sasaki/Shiozaki but had no luck at all. Anybody got a link?

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I <3 Hulk vs. Shingo from Kobe World.

Here's some matches I watched recently that'll be added to my MOTY list:
KENTA vs. Naomichi Marufuji ****3/4
Ibushi vs. Sekimoto ****1/2
Richards vs. Strong (Titanica) ****1/2
Marufuji vs. Devitt (January) ****1/2
Marufuji vs. Devitt (June) ****1/4
YAMATO vs. Richards ****1/4
Briscoes vs. Young Bucks (Titanica) ****1/4
Speed Muscle vs. Dragon Kid and Shingo (DGUSA) ****1/4
Speed Muscle vs. Kamikaze vs. Young Bucks ****1/4
Richards vs. Mochizuki ****
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cana anyone tell me which are the best Prince Devitt matches this year? been hearing alot about this guy but i only saw a few matches of his last year and he did look awesome.

also i heard about his series with Marufuji, which is the best out of their matches together?
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