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#1 ·
About time we made a Puro thread seeing as there's an Indy one and it deserves a seperate thread. You can use this to discuss any Puro matches or shows, past or present.

I've just finished this awesome set so I may as well get the thread up and running with some ratings for it.


ivp's Top 25 Matches in NOAH History

Disc 1

25. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger & Koji Kanemoto vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi - January 26th 2003 - Kobe World Hall
***1/2

24. Mitsuharu Misawa & Yoshinari Ogawa vs. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA - April 25th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2+

23. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger vs. Makoto Hashi - March 6th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***3/4

Disc 2

22. Kenta Kobashi vs. Minoru Suzuki - January 8th 2005 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***3/4

21. Jun Akiyama & Takeshi Rikio vs. Takeshi Morishima & Muhammad Yone - April 1st 2007 - Tokyo Korakuen Hall
****1/4

20. Naomichi Marufuji & Minoru Suzuki vs. Makoto Hashi & Jun Akiyama - July 18th 2005 - Tokyo Dome
****

19. Jun Akiyama & Takeshi Rikio vs. Yoshihiro Takayama & Takashi Sugiura - April 28th 2007 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***3/4

Disc 3

18. Kenta Kobashi & Yoshihiro Takayama vs. Jun Akiyama & Mitsuharu Misawa - December 2nd 2007 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

17. Akira Taue vs. Yuji Nagata - June 6th 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***1/2

16. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Makoto Hashi - September 12th 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

Disc 4

15. Jun Akiyama & Akitoshi Saito vs. Kenta Kobashi & Tamon Honda - June 6th 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

14. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Juventud Guerrera & Ricky Marvin - November 1st 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

Disc 5

13. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Takashi Sugiura - June 5th 2005 - Sapporo Media Park Spica
****1/2

12. Takeshi Rikio & Takeshi Morishima vs. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA - July 16th 2006 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2

11. KENTA vs. SUWA - September 18th 2005 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

Disc 6

10. Kenta Kobashi vs. Akira Taue - September 10th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2

9. Kenta Kobashi & Kentaro Shiga vs. Jun Akiyama & Akitoshi Saito - 19th October 2002 - Tokyo Korakuen Hall
****

8. Naomichi Marufuji vs. KENTA - October 29th 2006 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****3/4+

Disc 7

7. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger & Takehiro Muruhama - July 16th 2003 - Osaka Prefectural Gymnasium
****1/2

6. Kenta Kobashi vs. Tamon Honda - April 13th 2003 - Tokyo Ariake Colosseum
****1/2

BONUS Kenta Kobashi vs Jun Akiyama - December 23rd 2000 - Tokyo Ariake Colosseum
****3/4

Disc 8

5. Kenta Kobashi vs. Yoshihiro Takayama - April 25th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2

4. Kenta Kobashi vs. Jun Akiyama - July 10th 2004 - Tokyo Dome
****3/4

Disc 9

3. Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi - March 1st 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
*****

2. Kenta Kobashi & Go Shiosaki vs. Kensuke Sasaki & Katsuhiko Nakajima - November 5th 2005 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
*****

1. Kenta Kobashi vs. Kensuke Sasaki - July 18th 2005 - Tokyo Dome
*****

Overall:
Absolutely amazing comp. Perfect for any new NOAH fans with an insane amount of brilliant matches.
 
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#89 ·
ROH Invades Japan Volume 1

Austin Aries and Roderick Strong vs. Naruki Doi and Yoshino

No idea when exactly this match took place but it happened at a Wresltejam in Dragon Gate.

Good fast paced stuff where we saw the Japanese team work as the heels as they attempted to isolate Aries for a good period of time. You had the often criticized excessive interference from the heels and even some interference from the faces as well. Things also completely broke down at the end as I don't recall seeing a single tag during the last 5 minutes of the match.

That being said none of it bothered me at all as this match was a lot of to watch. Some really nice spots and really fast paced. The match went a little under 14 minutes and there wasn't a dull moment. We saw Aries get the pin on Yoshino after hitting the 450 Splash.
***1/4

Rocky Romero vs. Mushiking Terry

Joined in prgress but I don't you miss anything that important to the match. First few minutes were a nice mix of technical wrestling a them kicking each other really hard.

Some nice spots and everything but it was just kind of hard to get into. Ended up being an entertaining but rather average match. The ending was nice with a few false finsishes after some rough looking suplexes and ended with Mushiking Terry winning with an armdrag variation off the top rope.
**3/4 I'm sure I'm on the low end on this.

Takeshi Morishima vs. KENTA for the ROH World Title

Really good, stiff and quick match. I liked how KENTA took it right to the much bigger guy and never seemed to back down. We some really impressive suplexes from both guys, in fact the match came to an end a little after the 9 minute mark when Morishima hit KENTA with a big lariot into a side suplex.

They fit everything they needed to into this one. You can't do much better in 9 minutes as this was one awesome match. Would have liked a little more variation in Morishima's offense though.
***1/2

Brian Danielson vs KENTA

An incredible match between two of the best workers out there right now. I loved how seamlessly they were able to go from wrestling a technical masterpiece to Danielson hitting as stiff a lariot as I've seen to than having Dragon jumping off the top rope, over the guardrail on the floor. It really had me thinking, "Is there anything they can't do?"

They had some great technical wrestling and a really exciting ending that saw Daneilson go for the Cattle Mutilation a few times but fell victim to what I thought was a GTS from KENTA for the win.

The match was about 25 minutes long and it felt like it was 15 minutes long tops. Really enjoy seeing these two work together as they have amazing chemistry.
****1/4

Jack Evans, Matt Sydal, BxB Hulk, and Jushin Liger vs. Naruki Doi, Masato Yoshino, Magnitude Kishiwada, and Kevin Steen

Really like the mix of Japanese and American talent in the match as all the matches before this had been ROH talent against Japanese talent. Very nice to see a mix.

This was pretty much a wild and out of control match that had non stop action. Amazing stuff and I really liked how the Japanese crowd was really into the match. Usually the Japanese fans just piss me off but they were pretty good in this match. It had some great moments too such as seeing Sydal and Yohsino in the ring together and more spots than you could ask for. 18 minutes of pure fun and awesomeness.
***3/4

Nigel McGuinness & Doug Williams vs. Rikio & Kawabata

Another quick match but still very good. Frequent tags kept things very interesting and for a match that was barley over the 9 minute mark they had a great finishing sequence that saw Rikio and Kawabata take a good deal of punishment before when of them (no idea who was who) fell victim to a rolling German Suplex from Doug Williams.

Another good match on this set. I feel like they could have been able to have a great match if they had been allowed 5 more minutes or so but this is another example of how you can still have a very good short match.
***

The Briscoe Brothers vs. Ricky Marvin & Kotaro Suzuki for the GHC Jr. Heavyweight Tag Titles

A true roller coaster of a match. Much better than a lot of the U.S. stuff that I have seen from the Briscoes as this match had a very nice pace to it where we would see some nice mat work followed by some incredible spots and they would go back to the mat.

This match had as many big spots as a lot of the Briscoe matches that I've seen before but the big difference was that they avoided the overkill ending by spacing them out so well. There were a lot moments where I was shocked at how impressive some of the stuff they did looked.

Marvin and Suzuki are a team that was easily able to match high flying skills with the Briscoes and they went and put on an incredible match. One of the best tag matches that I've seen in a while.
****1/2

Chris Hero & Doug Williams vs. Yoshinori Ota & Mohammed Yone

15 of really good wrestling. Nothing was too flashy except for the brutal swinging reverse DDT (I guess that's what you would call it) from Hero at the end to get the win which was pretty awesome as it looked like Ota landed right on his head.

Another awesome match that just showcased some great wrestling.
***3/4

Overall a fantistic DVD and since it came from IVP that means it only cost me $3 so it's really hard to go wrong at such a low price.

I mean you have 2 matches over 4 stars and the rest were 3 or higher except for one match which was clipped anyways. Good mix of Dragon Gate and NOAH matches. Highly recommended.
 
#90 ·
**1/2 at most for Nigel/Williams vs. Rikioh & Kawabata. Kawabata was the one who got pinned as Rikioh is a former GHC Heavyweight champion, so he'll rarely ever get pinned, especially not to mid-card gaijin.

***-***1/4 For Hero & Doug vs. Ota & Yone.

I used to love Briscoes vs. Ricky & Kotaro but the last time I watched it I had to turn it off because of all the damn flippy moves from both teams.

KENTA/Morishima is one of the best under 10 minutes matches you'll ever see.
 
#94 ·
Seconded in regard to the sig.
 
#95 ·
Firsted in regards to having a bukkake fest on her face with Blasko, McQueen, Derek, GP, Mystery, Aaron, Spartan, Platt, Seabs, David, erickstanz, KingCrash, PaiMei, MAVSFAN and Benjo.

Other Wrestling parties can't be topped.

(P.S., if the girl isn't available, we can just use John Mercer instead)
 
#105 ·
So last night I had a date with a Japanese foreign exchange student. She didn't know who Misawa was. I was very sad.
 
#106 ·
No second date?

I just watched Dynamite Kid vs. Tatsumi Fujinami - Jr. Title (2/5/1980) and it was pretty awesome. If I didn't know the date of this match I would say that there was no chance in hell it happened in 1980. I really hope I can get around to watching more of him as I have a bunch of his matches on DVD with Tiger Mask.
 
#110 ·
Shawn Antonio Honda's pyro is my favorite moment in all of wrestling this year. Seriously.
 
#111 ·
Dan Kroffat & Doug Furnas vs. Kenta Kobashi & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi - AJPW 25.05.1992

I dare you to try and find any match with a crowd quite like this. Fuck me. From the moment the bell rings and Kobashi starts laying in with chops the crowd just go ape shit and gobble up absolutely everything Kobashi & Kikuchi throw at them. You know when Kikuchi's dropkicks at the get go make the crowd go fucking crazy you're gonna be in for a rollercoatser of a ride and you best make sure you've got your seatbelt on for this ride.

Can-ams are fucking awesome in this one too btw. Obviously the focus is all around the crowd with the babyface team of Kobashi and Kikuchi but Kroffat and Furnas play up to the crowd just as well as the heels in the situation. It's almost like Kroffat and Furnas are Al Qaeda leaders who have decided to invade All Japan and are gonna fucking blow everyone inside the arena up if they win. There power is immense and it's a beaty to watch but for such big powerful men they have another fucking weapon of mass destruction. These fuckers have bloody agility too. The iranians can fuck off with their nuclear weapons. They could probably invade this arena and the crowd would laugh them out of the front door where they came in shortly before Kobashi chops the skin completely off their chests. Your nuclear missiles and weapons of mass destruction aint got nothing on Can-ams destructive combination of immense power and decieving agility though.

And thus when the Japaneese crowd realise that two terrorists have invaded they suddenly realise that if their boys dont win then they're all gonna die and that aint what they want. It doesn't matter how much the two terrorists in the blue trunks hold their heroes back they just erupt for every moment of offense from Kobashi and Kikuchi. If anyone ever decides to publish a wrestling dictionary and they need a definition for the phrase marking the fuck out, just put All Japan 25/05/1992 or if you publish it in America change it to All Japan 5/25/1992 for their little minds that dont realise nearly every other country uses the correct date format.

They make the crowd at Mania 18 for Rock/Hogan sound like an empty arena match and if you compare the size of the two crowds that's quite the statement but it can be backed up. I don't think any combination of letters can really do justice for how amazing this is not only for the crowd but for the quality of the match too. I could try though. AGJKLMPQINFKGRPMWBOEMGPWGN!!!

As awesome as the crowd is though, the quality of the match backs it up just as much and is just incredible. If I go back to using Rock/Hogan as an example again, the crowd there made an alright match into a really good one. The crowd in this case made an awesome match into an all time classic. Even if it had a pretty average crowd the wrestling was still more than good enough to make it a genuinly brilliant wrestling match.

If ya want me stick a star rating on this heroes of japan vs terrorists war then really it's impossible to say how much I enjoyed it but apparently if I slap a ***** on it, it means I pretty much I enjoyed the fuck out of that shit, so ....


*****
 
#112 ·
Not enough Dick Togo in this thread. Pretty sure I was high as a kite when I wrote this a couple months ago. If you don't like cussin', then I advise you work the scroll bar like a motherfucker:


Jushin Liger v Dick Togo (NJPW Skydiving J, British Jr. Heavyweight Title, 6/17/96)

OH, FUCK YEAH! This ROCKED! Like, seriously rocked! Like, rocked harder than a garden shed in a hurricane! Or something! Dick MOTHERFUCKING Togo is king of all rudo junior heavyweights and Liger is pretty much all around king of junior heavyweights – Hell, king of wrestlers of all weights – and that nifty little match-up on paper makes for a fucking WHIP ASS little match-up in execution, I’ll tell ya. No, really, I’M TELLIN’ YA!

The main theme of this is Dick’s desire to out-dickhead Liger, but you just DO NOT FUCK with Jushin Liger – he WILL fucking kill you. Togo ain’t no candyass, though, and takes all of his hefty little frame and puts it to good use – throwing it at Liger like a big ol’ ball of ass-kicking, goatee-sporting jelly, hitting the PHAT ASS tope that puts any tope from any wrestler not name Hijo Del Santo to shame before DDT’ing king Jush’ right on the concrete. This is the first reason why McMahon can suck it for turning Togo into a lackey for a guy that hacks off pornstars’ dicks, and the second reason is the positively rib-crumbling double stomp off the second rope that should by all rights kill a motherfucker. Liger chimes in with reason number 765 as to why he’s the ruler of the farking universe by selling the ribs like the fucking KING that he always is, doing that whole eyeballs-popping-out-of-the-sockets sell that he manages to do so well despite wearing a friggin’ mask. Liger transitions into his run on offence by hitting the monkey flip that Togo takes so nicely before breaking his head with a Koppo kick and a hellish release German suplex. Then he slam dunks him with a powerbomb that’s almost Benoit levels of stiffness and everybody is reminded of the simple fact they should’ve already known beforehand anyway – do not fuck with Jushin Thunder Liger.

Liger’s whole stretch on offence here is just IMMACULATE in the way he blends his selling together with the general theme of dickheadedness since nobody out-dicks Liger with the throwback to Liger/Samurai from the ’92 BOSJ final in that Liger is asserting himself here as he did then, only this time he’s proving the point that he’s more surly and badass and fucking tremendous than the surliest most badass bully on the motherfucking continent of anywhere. Back then he was pissed off beyond imagine; now he’s obviously grown because he can still whoop a fool’s ass, but he takes the time to bust out a freaking Hogan hand-clasp-to-the-ear pose just to ram home the point of “I’m Jushin Liger – I’m better than whoever the fuck I say I’m better than.”

He really works the arm like a fiend here, ripping and tearing at it and throwing it into stuff like it belonged to someone that pissed him off. Togo screams like a man that needs some sweet mercy (which is how it fucking SHOULD be done, baby) so Liger gives him a reprieve by letting him keep his arm for a couple minutes while he ties him up in the corner and gives him a running Koppo kick to the cranium. “I done told you, boy; I am not to be fucked with!” Liger absolutely knocks the SHIT out of Togo with a single palm thrust that is to be rewound and re-watched several times in order to really comprehend the level of chin-splitting force behind it, and Liger sells the damn hand in this subtle little way that is reason number 766 as to why he rules all that is good in life.

He goes back to trying to take Togo’s arm home with him, but Dick manages to work himself an opening and goes up top, only Liger gives him another palm thrust that’s even MORE unconscionable than the last one and it sends him flying to the floor. Liger hits a big time plancha and then poses some more like a cocky dick before killing Togo with a fisherman buster. I’ll point out here that Liger’s constant going back to the limb-work (in this case, the arm) is what really pushes him over the great/super-great threshold more often than not, because the junior heavyweight style is based around either dives (pre-1996) or skull-mashing moves (post-1996) that it leaves the participants susceptible to blowing off limb-work or just dropping it in favour of hitting highspots. Liger manages to get everything in as effectively as possible and come Hell or high water is gonna make his opponents look like a million bucks in doing it.

Togo manages to find himself a breather again by backdropping Liger out to the floor, then hitting a BOSS as all Hell Tope con Hilo from inside the ring to the floor that lands him right on Liger’s fuggin’ head! Dick Togo is a stout little man that will crush a regular man’s skull by landing on it from ten feet in the air and don’t you forget it! Liger proves YET AGAIN why he’s better than everything ever by catching Togo attempting a running Hurricanrana or something off the apron by killing the bejeebers out of him with a powerbomb on the floor. Liger’s dickhead instincts tell him that he should mock the Michinoku Pro pee head by going back into the ring to play to the crowd before stepping back out and purposefully dragging Togo off the mats onto the exposed concrete so he can kill even MORE of the bejeebers out of him with an even more hellish powerbomb. Then he FLAIR STRUTS!

Togo’s just about dead enough for Liger’s tastes and seems content to finish things with a Kimura, but Togo reaches the ropes and that prompts Liger to lay another beatdown with a German suplex, which Dick reverses by kicking Liger in the grapes as he transitions into a powerbomb and two PHAT ASS top rope sentons. No dice on the nearfall so he goes for another which Liger moves out of the way of – saving his already demolished ribs in the process – and goes up top himself where he hits a missile dropkick to the injured arm Togo’s holding onto the middle rope with, which is just a GREAT spot. Togo reaches the ropes to break the cross-arm-breaker, but the advantage he managed to carve himself out through the low blow is slipping fast, and it would seem even faster when Liger gears up for the running Shotei (palm thrust) lariat. Togo manages to hang in there by dropping Liger on his face with a drop toe hold before scoring a nearfall with a La Majistral cradle, but now Liger is REALLY pissed and goes about murdering Togo with two fisherman busters – one from the top rope. Togo sells the top rope buster really awesomely by landing like a sack a potatoes, kinda going limp as soon as he hits the canvas as if he might actually be dead. Liger puts this baby out to pasture by smashing Togo’s teeth down his WWF-bound throat the good ol’ Shotei lariat way, and I’m thinking that’s maybe my favourite signature strike ever in wrestling because it looks just INCREDIBLY sore and hurty since it catches whoever’s taking it right in the fuggin’ jaw at about 300 miles a minute.

This wasn’t ever going to be anything short of good, so I’m not really sure why I’m surprised at just how good it was, but there ya go; proof that even the highest of expectations can be crushed by a Shotei lariat and a fat man Tope con Hilo. Liger’s the best ever, Togo’s INSANELY underrated, and if you’re only familiar with his pathetic run in the States (Vince McMahon and his cretinous bookers can blow me sideways for jobbing the entire Kaientai DX stable out to the fucking Oddities, btw. The FUCKING ODDITIES! GOLGA, fer chrissakes!), then you need to check this out in jig time. This is a whole big bunch of fucking bossiness and YOU WANT ALLLLL OF IT! Cross my heart. ****1/4

See ya in another 6 months.
 
#113 ·
6 MONTHS!?!? Goddamn you, Andy! Great read, as usual.
 
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