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#1 ·
About time we made a Puro thread seeing as there's an Indy one and it deserves a seperate thread. You can use this to discuss any Puro matches or shows, past or present.

I've just finished this awesome set so I may as well get the thread up and running with some ratings for it.


ivp's Top 25 Matches in NOAH History

Disc 1

25. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger & Koji Kanemoto vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi - January 26th 2003 - Kobe World Hall
***1/2

24. Mitsuharu Misawa & Yoshinari Ogawa vs. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA - April 25th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2+

23. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger vs. Makoto Hashi - March 6th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***3/4

Disc 2

22. Kenta Kobashi vs. Minoru Suzuki - January 8th 2005 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***3/4

21. Jun Akiyama & Takeshi Rikio vs. Takeshi Morishima & Muhammad Yone - April 1st 2007 - Tokyo Korakuen Hall
****1/4

20. Naomichi Marufuji & Minoru Suzuki vs. Makoto Hashi & Jun Akiyama - July 18th 2005 - Tokyo Dome
****

19. Jun Akiyama & Takeshi Rikio vs. Yoshihiro Takayama & Takashi Sugiura - April 28th 2007 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***3/4

Disc 3

18. Kenta Kobashi & Yoshihiro Takayama vs. Jun Akiyama & Mitsuharu Misawa - December 2nd 2007 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

17. Akira Taue vs. Yuji Nagata - June 6th 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***1/2

16. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Makoto Hashi - September 12th 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

Disc 4

15. Jun Akiyama & Akitoshi Saito vs. Kenta Kobashi & Tamon Honda - June 6th 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

14. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Juventud Guerrera & Ricky Marvin - November 1st 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

Disc 5

13. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Takashi Sugiura - June 5th 2005 - Sapporo Media Park Spica
****1/2

12. Takeshi Rikio & Takeshi Morishima vs. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA - July 16th 2006 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2

11. KENTA vs. SUWA - September 18th 2005 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

Disc 6

10. Kenta Kobashi vs. Akira Taue - September 10th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2

9. Kenta Kobashi & Kentaro Shiga vs. Jun Akiyama & Akitoshi Saito - 19th October 2002 - Tokyo Korakuen Hall
****

8. Naomichi Marufuji vs. KENTA - October 29th 2006 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****3/4+

Disc 7

7. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger & Takehiro Muruhama - July 16th 2003 - Osaka Prefectural Gymnasium
****1/2

6. Kenta Kobashi vs. Tamon Honda - April 13th 2003 - Tokyo Ariake Colosseum
****1/2

BONUS Kenta Kobashi vs Jun Akiyama - December 23rd 2000 - Tokyo Ariake Colosseum
****3/4

Disc 8

5. Kenta Kobashi vs. Yoshihiro Takayama - April 25th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2

4. Kenta Kobashi vs. Jun Akiyama - July 10th 2004 - Tokyo Dome
****3/4

Disc 9

3. Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi - March 1st 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
*****

2. Kenta Kobashi & Go Shiosaki vs. Kensuke Sasaki & Katsuhiko Nakajima - November 5th 2005 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
*****

1. Kenta Kobashi vs. Kensuke Sasaki - July 18th 2005 - Tokyo Dome
*****

Overall:
Absolutely amazing comp. Perfect for any new NOAH fans with an insane amount of brilliant matches.
 
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#7,847 ·
NJPW G1 Climax 2014 Day 5 Review:

Tomohiro Ishii vs. Doc Gallows: ***3/4. That was great. Doc's best match in NJPW so far, finally he showed me something. He's been giving chances and never deliverd, but this time he had a good performance. Obv it helps when you're in the same ring with Ishii, but still. Hopefully he'll be better from now on.

Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs. Lance Archer: ***1/4. Man, Teznan's been pretty damn good, considering how bad he looked last year. Happy for him, he's been doing a great job.

Satoshi Kojima vs. Davey Boy Smith Jr.: ***1/4

Minoru Suzuki vs. Yujiro Takahashi: **1/2

Toru Yano vs. Karl Anderson: ***

Katsuyori Shibata vs. Shelton Benjamin: ***1/2

Hirooki Goto vs. AJ Styles: ***3/4. Awesome match and MOTN. The final stretch had me on the edge of my seat. Great stuff. AJ, deservedly, is getting over with the crowd and they're finally buying him as the face of the company. Happy about the result, good booking.

Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Bad Luck Fale: ***1/2. Loved the booking. The storytelling was very good and logical. Nothing more to ask really. Fale's killing it for awhile now and still getting shit from the fans. What a shame.

Tomoaki Honma vs. Shinsuke Nakamura: ***3/4. Damn, great match. Honma's shtick is working big time.

Tetsuya Naito vs. Kazuchika Okada: ***3/4
 
#7,848 ·
You know who I love? Chris, the guy who runs IVP Videos. I made an order on July 22nd that took some extra time to get out because he had some problems with the Tanahashi blu ray, so what does he do in return? Give me a BUNCH of free shit! I got an AJW show from '94, like 5 discs covering AJPW in '86, two discs that I assume are from AJPW in '97 cause they just say '97-16' and '97-17' and a disc that says 'NJPW 1-4-14 Pt.2'. I don't even know what was on that show, but hey, I got it now. :p And this is on top of everything that I actually made in the order. My lord, where do you start with all this wrestling in front of you??? :lol
 
#7,850 ·
Day 10 seems like an awful day. All the guys who are in the top are in obvious winning matches with the exception of Shibata/Ishii (i doubt that's a spoiler). I expect a lot from that match and am off to watch it :D
 
#7,852 ·
NJPW G1 CLIMAX 24 DAY 9 (8/4)

G1 Climax 24 Block A: Davey Boy Smith Jr. vs Tomoaki Honma ***

G1 Climax 24 Block B: Yujiro Takahashi vs Lance Archer **1/2

G1 Climax 24 Block A: Doc Gallows vs Yuji Nagata **3/4

G1 Climax 24 Block B: Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs Togi Makabe ***

G1 Climax 24 Block B: Tetsuya Naito vs Minoru Suzuki ***1/2 (MOTN)

G1 Climax 24 Block A: Bad Luck Fale vs Katsuyori Shibata **

G1 Climax 24 Block A: Satoshi Kojima vs Shinsuke Nakamura ***1/4

G1 Climax 24 Block B: Karl Anderson vs AJ Styles ***1/2

G1 Climax 24 Block A: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Shelton X Benjamin ***

G1 Climax 24 Block B: Hirooki Goto vs Kazuchika Okada ***1/2

Overall Grade: 7.25
 
#7,853 · (Edited)
Please excuse me while I talk about something that isn't this year's G1. :p

IVP Custom Comp: The Best of Hiroshi Tanahashi

Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Bas Rutten - N/R
NJPW 6/5/2002

#1 Contender's Match
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Hiroyoshi Tenzan - *
NJPW Ultimate Crush - 5/3/2003

NJPW Tag Team Championship (Vacant)
Kensuke Sasaki & Minoru Suzuki vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi & Shinsuke Nakamura - **** 1/2
NJPW 12/11/2004

G1 Climax - Block B
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Shinsuke Nakamura - *** 1/2
NJPW 8/7/2005

Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Katsuyori Shibata - * 3/4
NJPW Toukon Shidou Chapter 1 - 1/4/2006

G1 Climax - Finals
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Yuji Nagata - ** 1/2
NJPW 8/12/2007

New Japan Cup - Semifinal
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Togi Makabe - ** 1/4
NJPW 3/23/2008

- I swear I've seen this Bas Rutten guy somewhere else before. Maybe in UFC? Who knows. Anyway, this isn't even really a match. It's a shoot-style fight that's really fucking awesome and goes about 4 minutes. Loved it. (Y)

- Tenzan is a guy I'm familiar with and I've seen plenty of times but he does absolutely nothing for me. This match didn't help that. Pretty damn bad if I'm being honest. No flow whatsoever, just a bunch of moves with very little crowd reaction. Some horrible facial expressions and selling from both guys too. Interesting to note that a year after his "match" with Rutten, Tanahashi somehow looks younger after changing his look and hairstyle. It clearly didn't work.

- Holy motherfucker, that tag match. THAT TAG MATCH. :mark: What a story. Two badass veterans in there against two young upstart studs. Those young studs got there asses WHIPPED. What a beating those two took, but they just would not quit. Nakamura seemed to be getting worked over for an eternity at one point. There's a constant story of Tanahashi having an injured left leg throughout the entire match and he sells it 50/50 throughout. Guess he does it when it matters most. The work of Sasaki & Suzuki was incredible. Just kept kicking ass and looking dominant. As if the work that all 4 men did for the bulk of the match wasn't enough, the sequences they put together in the final few minutes literally had me standing on my feet rooting for the young guys. It was impressive. This match is a wonderful piece of storytelling and a career making performance for the young guns. I found you a link and you folks that haven't seen it should definitely check it out (match goes a little over 30 minutes btw): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaoeU7f-oF8

- I was a little lukewarm coming into the match with Nakamura because those two had a match at the dome show in '05 that I wasn't too big a fan of, but this one was much better. Wrestled at a blistering, almost frantic pace at times. I imagine it's the way most G1 matches are wrestled. No feeling out process, just 10-15 minutes of straight action. There was some really good stuff in here. Nakamura attacking Tanahashi's taped lower back, some sweet submission counters and smooth transitions late in the match, and a finish that I wasn't exactly expecting to see but still made me cheer. Liked this.

- Does Shibata fucking suck or did I just see a bad match to judge him on? He did nothing but throw kicks for 10 minutes straight and it got old in a hurry. Tanahashi did nothing but try german suplexes. Complete nothing match.

- I enjoyed the first half of his match with Nagata, but by the end they had completely lost me. Developed into both guys just exchanging strikes a bunch of times and hitting moves for nearfalls. I think Nagata hit 4 backdrop drivers and it took Tanahashi a straight jack German, a tiger suplex, and a 2nd high fly flow to win the match. Meh. It's a shame this wasn't anything special because everything I've seen from Nagata around '06-'07 was terrific.

- Match vs. Makabe was pretty standard. Makabe dominated for the bulk of it and his lackies helped him out, then Tanahashi makes a comeback and won with a few moves. The ref certainly let him get away with a whole lot. :p
 
#7,855 · (Edited)
NJPW "G1 CLIMAX 24", 08.08.2014 Day 11

-Shelton Benjamin vs Tomoaki Honma ***
-Yujiro Takahashi vs Toru Yano 1/2*
-Lance Archer vs Hirooki Goto **1/4
-Karl Anderson vs Tetsuya Naito ***1/4
-Yuji Nagata vs Tomohiro Ishii ***1/2
-Doc Gallows vs Katsuyori Shibata *
-Shinsuke Nakamura vs Bad Luck Fale ***
-AJ Styles vs Togi Makabe ***1/4
-Davey Boy Smith vs Hiroshi Tanahashi ***1/4
-Minoru Suzuki vs Kazuchika Okada **** (MOTN)
 
#7,856 · (Edited)
http://www.leechstar.net/files_2/rs/NJPW.2014.08.08.G1.Climax.24.Day.11.iPPV.mp4

Hey, that's a stream of G1 Day 11. Hit ctrl+S, or "save page as" to dl it.

Edit: Up only temporarily. Take the links from the puro downloads page (specifically links from uploaded.net, or after that try rapidgator), and go to luxleech.com and leechstar.com. It takes a million attempts to get a link to work. But eventually one works... usually, I think.
 
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#7,859 ·
Nakamura vs Ishii was brilliant. Instead of blowing it all on a structure that was EPIC, they went out and kept it sustained to a very natural babyface vs babyface, we're allies, but we know what he was to do type match. Counters in this felt more than blocking or dodging something they knew was coming. It was that bond they have as stablemates that allowed them to find the loophole or not wait to be plastered by whatever was coming next. Biggest example was Nak's taunt before attempt a Boma Ye & Ishii soared w/the dropkick right square in his dome. No wasted time. Organic is how all of it came across. Adored every second. Second favorite match produced from the tournament for me. Roar for the post match lovefest left me giddy.
 
#7,863 ·
Wanted to ask if anyone else has seen this match to get some other opinions on it:

WWF World Title - 2 out of 3 Falls
Ric Flair (c) vs. Genichiro Tenryu (WAR 9/15/1992)

The match just never clicked with me. It was so strange. Flair gives a great heel performance and eventually stumbles into some great legwork, but there was SO much repetitiveness in this. Flair probably hit like 7 shinbreakers and the only offense Tenryu was ever able to mount were chops, headkicks, and the weakest looking powerbomb ever that won him the first fall. The match goes over 35 minutes but man I wanted to fast forward through parts. There's a sequence that's really good at first where Flair has him in the figure-4 and Tenryu yanks at Flair's ankle so Flair has to make it to the ropes to break the hold but once Tenryu breaks he just keeps him in the figure-4, and then they just do the same sequence again. Frustrates me when wrestlers do that. The finish to the 3rd fall is clever but also frustrating considering it's not a clean finish. Really deflates my attitude when I watch a match that goes so long and doesn't have a definitive finish or winner. Anyways, any other thoughts on this? Most people I read reviews from online tend to praise it mainly because of Flair's work. ** 1/4

This is the link for it, but on the disc I watched, the match had no commentary except for a small portion of the 2nd fall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8m1h62X5OA
 
#7,864 · (Edited)
NJPW G1 Climax 2014 Day 6 Review:

Doc Gallows vs. Bad Luck Fale: *1/2. Damn, that was bad. Like, really bad. The crowd couldn't care less and the in-ring work was just uninspired.

Davey Boy Smith Jr. vs. Yuji Nagata: **3/4

Togi Makabe vs. Yujiro Takahashi: ***1/4

Satoshi Kojima vs. Katsuyori Shibata: ***1/2

Hirooki Goto vs. Karl Anderson: ***3/4

Minoru Suzuki vs. Lance Archer: **3/4

Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Shelton Benjamin: **1/2. Why the fuck Benjamin kicked out of the Bomaye? Anyway the match was rushed and not very good.

Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs. AJ Styles: ***1/2

Kazuchika Okada vs. Toru Yano: ***

Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Tomohiro Ishii: ***3/4
 
#7,867 ·
Everyone kicks out of the Boma Ye, it takes three sometimes five of those for Nakamura to win. That's why I don't like it, A finisher should be the move no one gets up from. Not having to use it multiple times to keep the guy down. He needs to get a new finisher and make the Boma Ye a transitional move.
 
#7,865 ·
New Japan 4/8/14 Day 9 G1 Climax
Davey Boy Smith Jr vs Tomoaki Honma **3/4
Yujiro Takahashi vs Lance Archer **3/4
Yuji Nagata vs Doc Gallows ***1/4
Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs Togi Makabe ***
Minoru Suzuki vs Tetsuya Naito ***1/2
Bad Luck Fale vs Katsuyori Shibata ***
Shinsuke Nakamura vs Satoshi Kojima ***1/2
Karl Anderson vs AJ Styles ***1/2
Shelton Benjamin vs Hiroshi Tanahashi ***
Kazuchika Okada vs Hirooki Goto ***3/4

New Japan 6/8/14 G1 Day 10
Honma vs Kojima ***
Fale vs DBS Jr **1/2
Naito vs Tenzan ***1/2
Anderson vs Suzuki ***1/2
Yano vs Makabe DUD
Yujiro vs Styles ***
Archer vs Okada ***1/2
Nagata vs Tanahashi ***3/4
Ishii vs Shibata ****1/4
Nakamura vs Gallows ***1/4
 
#7,869 ·
NJPW G1 CLIMAX DAY 10 (8/6)

G1 Climax 24 Block A: Satoshi Kojima vs Tomoaki Honma **1/2

G1 Climax 24 Block A: Bad Luck Fale vs Davey Boy Smith Jr. **

G1 Climax 24 Block B: Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs Tetsuya Naito **1/2

G1 Climax 24 Block B: Minoru Suzuki vs Karl Anderson **3/4

G1 Climax 24 Block B: Togi Makabe vs Toru Yano 1/4*

G1 Climax 24 Block B: AJ Styles vs Yujiro Takahashi ***1/4

G1 Climax 24 Block B: Kazuchika Okada vs Lance Archer ***

G1 Climax 24 Block A: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Yuji Nagata ***1/2

G1 Climax 24 Block A: Tomohiro Ishii vs Katsuyori Shibata ****

G1 Climax 24 Block A: Shinsuke Nakamura vs Doc Gallows ***1/4

Overall Grade: 7.0
 
#7,876 · (Edited)
Top matches of the G-1

Tanahashi vs AJ - Day 12 - ******
Nakamura vs Okada - Day 12 - *****
Honma vs Shibata - Day 8 ****3/4
Nakamura vs Ishii - Day 7 ****1/2
Styles vs MiSu - Day 7 ****1/2
Nakamura vs Nagata - Day 4 ****1/2
Nakamura vs Shibata - Day 1 ****1/4
Okada vs Styles - Day 1 ****1/4
Tanahashi vs Shibata - Day 4 ****1/4
Okada vs Goto - Day 9 ****1/4
Nagata vs Shibata - Day 7 ****1/4
Okada vs Naito - Day 5 ****
Ishii vs Shibata - Day 10 ****
MiSu vs Okada - Day 11 ****
Tanahashi vs Honma - Day 1 ****
Honma vs Ishii - Day 4 ****
Styles vs Naito - Day 4 ****
Tanahashi vs Ishii - Day 6 ****
Anderson vs Styles - Day 9 ****
Nakamura vs Tanahashi - Day 8 ***3/4
Tanahashi vs Kojima - Day 3 ***3/4
Okada vs Makabe - Day 3 ***3/4
Anderson vs Okada - Day 4 ***1/2
Okada vs Yujiro - Day 8 ***1/2
Makabe vs Goto - Day 1 ***1/2
Ishii vs Kojima - Day 2 ***1/2
Ishii vs Gallows - Day 5 ***1/2
Tenzan vs AJ - Day 6 ***1/2
MiSu vs Naito - Day 9 ***1/2
Kojima vs Nakamura - Day 9 ***1/2

I did not rate these in order if they were the same rating. I have Nagata/Shinskay in second behind Honma/Shibata for mott....until tomorrow.

For the past two years, I've been expecting to see some mindblowing match between the two chaos members but I've grown sick of Nakamura. Does the same thing pretty much every match and sometimes is lucky enough to have somebody carry him. Not to say I don't like him, I do like him...I just wish he'd vary his attacks and him spamming the Boma Ye in every match now is about the final nail in the coffin of thinking he can put on a classic with Okada. I don't think Okada can carry somebody who is bigger than him fwiw, so I plan for disappointment tomorrow.
 
#7,878 ·
NJPW G1 Climax 2014 Day 7:

Satoshi Kojima vs. Shelton Benjamin: ***

Toru Yano vs. Lance Archer: **3/4

Yujiro Takahashi vs. Karl Anderson: **1/2

Hiroyoshi Tenzan vs. Hirooki Goto: ***1/2. Tenzan's comeback ruled. The crowd was rad hot for this match, once again Tenzan w/ a very good performance.

Tomoaki Honma vs. Bad Luck Fale: ****. Awesome match. The crowd went ape shit for Honma, wonder when they'll pull the trigger there. BL Fale with yet another great match.

Togi Makabe vs. Tetsuya Naito: ***3/4

Minoru Suzuki vs. AJ Styles: *****. Holy shit. Welcome to the tournament, Suzuki. And what a way to comeback. What an amazing match. ***** for me, loved every second of it. I :mark: so much here, esp when Suzuki throw that awesome PUNCH and AJ responded with a Pele Kick. MOTY, imo.

Yuji Nagata vs. Katsuyori Shibata: ****

Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Tomohiro Ishii: ***3/4. Very fun match with simple story and they kept it short and sweet.
 
#7,879 · (Edited)
NJPW G1 CLIMAX 24 DAY 11 (8/8)

G1 Climax 24 Block A: Tomoaki Honma vs Shelton X Benjamin **1/2

G1 Climax 24 Block B: Toru Yano vs Yujiro Takahashi *

G1 Climax 24 Block B: Hirooki Goto vs Lance Archer **

G1 Climax 24 Block B: Tetsuya Naito vs Karl Anderson ***1/4

G1 Climax 24 Block A: Yuji Nagata vs Tomohiro Ishii ***1/2

G1 Climax 24 Block A: Katsuyori Shibata vs Doc Gallows **1/4

G1 Climax 24 Block A: Shinsuke Nakamura vs Bad Luck Fale ***1/4

G1 Climax 24 Block B: AJ Styles vs Togi Makabe **3/4

G1 Climax 24 Block A: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Davey Boy Smith Jr. ***

G1 Climax 24 Block B: Kazuchika Okada vs Minoru Suzuki ****

Overall Grade: 7.25


Dragon Gate: Scandal Gate 2014 (8/5)

We Are Team Veteran (Masaaki Mochizuki, Dragon Kid & Gamma) vs Jimmyz (Genki Horiguchi H.A.Gee.Mee!!, Mr. Quu Quu Naoki Tanizaki Toyonaka Dolphin & Jimmy Kanda) **1/4

Don Fujii & Ryotsu Shimizu vs Yosuke❤Santa Maria & Yuga Hayashi **1/4

Jimmy Susumu, Jimmy Kagetora & Mr. High Tension Kotoka vs K-ness, Ken'ichiro Arai & Shachihoko BOY **3/4

Monster Express (Akira Tozawa & Shingo Takagi) vs MAD BLANKEY (YAMATO & Punch Tominaga) **3/4

Millenials (T-Hawk & Eita) vs Monster Express (Masato Yoshino & Uhaa Nation) ***1/2

Open the Dream Gate Title - 4 on 1 Handicap Elimination Match
BxB Hulk (c) vs MAD BLANKEY (Naruki Doi, Kzy, Cyber Kong & Mondai Ryu) ***

Overall Grade: 5.75
 
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