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Old 08-13-2014, 04:54 AM   #7891 (permalink)
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I haven't watched much NOAH this year, so I wanted to ask you guys, what are some of the best NOAH matches of this year?
There hasn't been a ton to be honest, but these are more than worth checking out:

Yuji Nagata vs Naomichi Marufuji - NOAH 05.07.14 - ****

Atsushi Kotoge & Taiji Ishimori vs Yoshinari Ogawa & Zack Sabre Jr - NOAH 4.12.2014 - ***3/4

Taiji Ishimori Vs Daisuke Harada - NOAH 03.08.2014 - ***3/4
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does anyone have a link to Nakamura/Okada from the G1 Climax 2 years ago?
This match was never released in full because even back then they knew they were trying to hold it back as long as they could. There's a 6 minute or so clip on youtube from it.
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Old 08-13-2014, 09:59 AM   #7894 (permalink)
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I recall seeing that match, and it went just under 20 minutes or something. Only match I remember people complaining about missing footage was the 15 or so minutes from Okada/Tanahashi in June 2012.
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IVP: The Best of Katsuhiko Nakajima, Vol. 2

AJPW World Jr. Heavyweight Championship
Shuji Kondo (c) vs. Katsuhiko Nakajima - DUD
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AJPW World Jr. Heavyweight Championship
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AJPW 6/24/2007

AJPW World Jr. Heavyweight Championship
Katsuhiko Nakajima (c) vs. Chris Sabin - *** 1/2
AJPW 8/26/2007

ROH World Title
Takeshi Morishima (c) vs. Katsuhiko Nakajima - 1/2*
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- I'm gonna combine this paragraph for both Kondo matches cause they were both horrible. In the first one they waste time in the middle with Nakajima doing armwork that isn't sold in the slightest and with Kondo doing neckwork that means nothing and goes nowhere. They eventually trade nearfalls for about 10 minutes and after seeing a whole slew of big moves, the match ends with a german suplex. WOW. The 2nd match wasn't quite as bad but still awful. Kondo does leg work and it wasn't sold at all. Jumping dropkicks everywhere. Then they trade some more nearfalls for several minutes. These two have no idea how to structure a match without trading pin attempts for 50% of it. On top of that there were sequences that made no sense at all because Nakajima is truly bad at selling. He would lay there for a minute straight then pop up and start kicking Kondo. UGH

- I almost gave up on this comp but thankfully I didn't because I really liked the match with Sabin. The constant barrage of kicks from Nakajima made sense here because Sabin tried to kick with him in the beginning and it didn't work. Sabin attacks the left leg for a few minutes and the selling is so-so throughout. He doesn't hit any blatant kicks with the left leg and leap off the ropes for a dropkick at least. Sabin looked like a million bucks here, let me tell ya. I seriously thought he was gonna win after a cradle shock from the middle rope. Guy had some really close nearfalls. The only problem was that once again there were too many of them. Idk why they keep doing this shit but luckily this time it wasn't enough to just completely ruin the match. I loved the shit out 90% of this but if they had cut out about 3 or 4 nearfalls/minutes of action, it would've hit 4* territory. Much better selling overall from Nakajima too.

- I'm not even going into detail about the Morishima match because I don't even care. Nakajima does NOTHING but kick until the last few minutes and Morishima blatantly ignores the legwork he had to endure. Nakajima is at least able to hit a german suplex late in the match that gets a good reaction, but most of this sucked. Morishima should've looked way more dominant and guess what else they did? Spam the hell out of nearfalls. Oh and they completely botched the finish. The ref counted 3 despite Nakajima actually getting his shoulder up. Jesus fucking christ this shit SUCKED.

Someone tell me, has Nakajima improved at all over the years? What's he doing these days?
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Nakajima does nothing these days because the Jr. style in Japan outside of New Japan really sucks and NOAH really sucks as well. I haven't seen a Nakajima match in ages but he seemed to stop having great matches around the time he got those horrible baggy pants. Back when the promotions he was working in were hot he was really good though. Maybe the regression is in part due to the places he's working being so cold but also in part due to him not progressing well past being a scrappy underdog kid who kicks hard. If he came into New Japan then I'm pretty sure he'd be really good again though. So many Jrs. out there wasting away working horrible long matches in other promotions while New Japan's Jr. division really needs beefing up with guys like Nakajima.
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I feel like it is safe to say most Jr. style, even in NJPW, stinks something extra. Actually, most of my critisizm would be towards NJPW since I haven't seen a ton of Iishimori(sp?) or ZSJ in NOAH nor have I watched a ton of junior wrestling anywhere else such as AJPW. But I have seen enough of NJPW to know there are VERY few guys I'd like see consistently in that Jr. division with KUSHIDA probably being one and Ibushi the other but then again most of the time I watch Ibushi these days, I enjoy his matches against heavyweights at least twice as much than in his native weight class. So there's that.
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I can deal with New Japan Jr. matches more because they're at least short. Rare even the title matches go over 15 minutes which is a fine cut off point for them. New Japan's Jr. division has been poor for ages now. KUSHIDA is getting very good and Ibushi is always fun so it's getting better at least. It's a shame they don't work with Dragon Gate more because a ton of their guys coming in to work 10 minute Jr. matches on their PPVs would rule. Stops them doing the whole 20-30 minute match where the first 2/3rds of boring.
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