[Nervosa]

Rob Conway...........best Wrestler in the World.............

[Obfuscation]

So he did unseat Kahagas.

Just look at him.

[Chismo]

Originally Posted by HayleySabin

You sure about the clipping of MiSu vs Yano? b/c I time all the matches myself and every single occasion pardon the rare one per show, the New Japan times are WAYYYYY ahead over mine. Unsure if any portion of the match was clipped. Don't remember any significant transitions to hint to so.

For an example Ishii vs Goto wasn't clipped, yet the NJ time for it was around 18:48. Where as my time stopped at 17 minutes flat. So...idk. Only going by what I see here.

Samurai TV clips matches every time, The Sopranos style. But they're very skilled in doing it, you barely notice, so props for that.

[Obfuscation]

I know for a fact that the Ishii/Goto match had zero clipped from it. So, the question of the whole timing notion being off still leaves me puzzled. It's like Chikara too. Matches shown in full yet their times are always way off from mine. Most promotions usually are. I never get it. Far too many time limit draws don't even go the allotted distance.

[Rah]

Do you think that, perhaps, your watch may be wrong?

[Obfuscation]

Nope. Not when I hit the button at the sound of the bell once it beings and right away once it ends. Impossible to screw that up. Thinking these timers are like Fire Pro Wrestling to where they jump fast to uphold the match going longer than they actually do.

Even other sites acknowledge this too. Such as Benoit vs Scorpio from SuperBrawl III. Slated in kayfabe that the match clocked in at about 19:59. One second to spare with the 20 minute time limit. Yet, while I time it, it's in the 18 minute mark once Scorpio snakes out the victory. See. There is a method behind all of this.

[leglock]

Ring Announcers in Japan are also the time keepers. You'll notice them looking at a timer and announcing when 5, 10, 15, etc minutes have passed. When a match is finished, they record the "official" match time in an actual record book.

[Obfuscation]

Yep, yep. I've noticed that plenty.

[EmbassyForever]

Spoiler for NJC D3 Review:

NJPW - New Japan Cup 2013 Final iPPV - 03.23.13 Review:

Aogi-gun (Super Strong Machine & Yuji Nagata) & BUSHI vs. Jushin Thunder Liger, Manabu Nakanishi & Tiger Mask - **1/4

New Japan Cup 2013 Semi Final Match: Davey Boy Smith Jr. vs. Hirooki Goto - ***

New Japan Cup 2013 Semi Final Match: Kazuchika Okada vs. Toru Yano - ***3/4 (This match was so much fun, better than Suzuki/Yano from G1)

CHAOS (Jado, Shinsuke Nakamura & Tomohiro Ishii) vs. Suzuki-gun (Lance Archer, Minoru Suzuki & TAKA Michinoku) - ***1/4

Apollo 55 (Prince Devitt & Ryusuke Taguchi), Karl Anderson & Tama Tonga vs. Time Splitters (Alex Shelley & KUSHIDA), Captain New Japan & Hiroshi Tanahashi - ***1/4 (Devitt's post-match promo

New Japan Cup 2013 Final Match: Hirooki Goto vs Kazuchika Okada - ***3/4 (I don't know.. I can see people giving this 4*+ but for some reason I found this match a little too much, IMO they went to overkill here, but still very good bout)

[Crusade]

Spoiler for NJPW Cup Round 2:

New Japan Cup 2013 - Day 2


Jushin Liger & Tiger Mask vs. Cpt. New Japan & BUSHI: **1/4

CHAOS (Gedo, Takashi Iizuka & YOSHI-HASHI) vs. TenKoji (Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima) & Togi Makabe: **3/4

Shinsuke Nakamura & Jado vs. TAKA Michinoku & Lance Archer: ***1/4

Round 2: Yujiro Takahashi vs. Davey Boy Smith Jr.: ***

Round 2: Hirooki Goto vs. Tomohiro Ishii: ****1/2

Laughter7 (Kazushi Sakuraba & Katsuyori Shibata) vs. Yuji Nagata & Manabu Nakanishi: ***1/2

Time Splitters (KUSHIDA & Alex Shelley) & Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Apollo 55 (Prince Devitt & Ryusuke Taguchi) & Tama Tonga: ***1/4

Round 2: Toru Yano vs. Minoru Suzuki: **

Round 2: Kazuchika Okada vs. Karl Anderson: ***1/4

Some thoughts:

- Goto/Ishii was amazing. Ishii obviously is the man but I don't think enough credit is being given to Goto. He was also really good in this match. Easily top 3 of the year match for me thus far.

- Misu/Yano wasn't as bad as I expected it to be thanks to Suzuki carrying the action and finish being executed well. But this still wasn't that great, went 5 mins. Suzuki relied too heavily on the sleeper which didn't come off as what he intended I assume. Yano wasn't given much offense thankfully, he doesn't deserve it against Suzuki and it would have been unrealistic booking. Also at him blatantly stealing the thumbs from RVD. Someone mentioned that Archer stole the water spitting from HHH but at least he makes it his own and whilst Jado uses Flair's gimmick it is obviously done for comedy which he does exceptionally well at. Yano pretty much just uses part of RVD's sthick and does nothing to make it his own. Thank god he was facing Suzuki to make him look good at the finish.

- Okada/Anderson was good but a bit disappointing for their standard. I agree with Hayleysabin that they seemed to hold back a little bit but I still really enjoyed it for the time it went. Also glad to see the rainmaker again.

- Laughter 7 and Nagata are awesome, that is all that needs to be said. The exchanges between Sakuraba and Nagata were fucking awesome

- CHAOS vs Suzukigun multi tag was so much fun. I love Jado, he is extremely entertaining and funny to watch. The exchanges with him and Taka were a pleasure to watch. Archer and Nakamura were also great here as expected. Taka's selling of the Boma Ye was GODLY

- Rest of the card was solid. Another notable point are how good Smith's selling was during his match with Takahashi which made Takahashi look like a genuine threat.

Another really strong show from NJPW. Really enjoyed watching this thing. Time to watch the NJPW cup final.