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Old 09-06-2012, 11:44 AM   #4761 (permalink)
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If they were putting it back on Suwama then I'm pretty sure they would have just had Suwama win it back from Akiyama after their first match. Obviously I'd rather him have the belt right now because it means more big Suwama matches but he's having big matches without it I guess. At least 2 of Suwama/Shiozaki, Suwama/Okada and Suwama/Nakamura NEED to happen by the end of the year.
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:28 PM   #4762 (permalink)
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Funaki really beat Akiyama in < 5 mins? lol. my guess is Akiyama is injured more than they are building killer Funaki.
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I seriously couldn't believe it when I saw it.... WTF is Muto thinking..
Translation: "OMG, it's not gonna be a four star match, fuck them all!"

In all seriousness, though, I don't see what's wrong with this. Nostalgic booking which hurts no one.
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Old 09-06-2012, 01:55 PM   #4764 (permalink)
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At least 2 of Suwama/Shiozaki, Suwama/Okada and Suwama/Nakamura NEED to happen by the end of the year.
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Old 09-06-2012, 03:26 PM   #4765 (permalink)
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Funaki really beat Akiyama in < 5 mins? lol. my guess is Akiyama is injured more than they are building killer Funaki.
For a short match it was still entertaining, though.


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I think you're all missing the point to Akiyama's short matches (this, the Ogawa match and countless others). Akiyama likes to work finishers into the early stages of his matches. If you don't occasionally have them effective, they will forever be heatless. Wait until you see a rematch or another high profile Akiyama match. A couple of big bombs will be thrown early on and THIS match will position those moments to succeed in making the crowd lose their shit. It's long-term booking, and crucial to maintaining the heat in Akiyama's preferred match layout. Want to know why KENTA's busaiku knee kick gets no heat? It hasn't been effective since 1837. Akiyama losing means that any finishers he takes within 5 mins for the next year will get heat that they otherwise wouldn't.
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If they were putting it back on Suwama then I'm pretty sure they would have just had Suwama win it back from Akiyama after their first match. Obviously I'd rather him have the belt right now because it means more big Suwama matches but he's having big matches without it I guess. At least 2 of Suwama/Shiozaki, Suwama/Okada and Suwama/Nakamura NEED to happen by the end of the year.
Didn't Suwama have his chance at the Champions Cup in May? Akiyama versed Suwama, that much I positively know, but was it for the triple crown? Or is this the match you mean? If so there isn't means for Suwama to go over here, especially with reports pre-video release stating that Funaki didn't simply fluke a win from the champ.

My guess is either Funaki retains strongly for a good long reign (most likely) or Suwama goes over Funaki positioning Akiyama to bring up the fact he beat him in May and set up a rematch (highly unlikely and horrendously illogical booking). Rematches don't just fall from Japan, either. I have a feeling this is going to be Funaki's year (well, quarter year) at very least.

Completely agreed on wanting Suwama/Okada, though. Fap material right there.
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I think you're all missing the point to Akiyama's short matches (this, the Ogawa match and countless others). Akiyama likes to work finishers into the early stages of his matches. If you don't occasionally have them effective, they will forever be heatless. Wait until you see a rematch or another high profile Akiyama match. A couple of big bombs will be thrown early on and THIS match will position those moments to succeed in making the crowd lose their shit. It's long-term booking, and crucial to maintaining the heat in Akiyama's preferred match layout. Want to know why KENTA's busaiku knee kick gets no heat? It hasn't been effective since 1837. Akiyama losing means that any finishers he takes within 5 mins for the next year will get heat that they otherwise wouldn't.
This is why Puro is real deal. There's no storytelling this deep anywhere else.

Btw, I hope they book Funaki/Nagata Cage Deathmatch for the TC down the line.
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IVP - The Best of Harley Race

Harley Race vs. Giant Baba - *** 1/2
12/9/1975

Harley Race vs. Abdullah The Butcher - N/A
5/13/1976

NWA World Title - 2 out of 3 Falls
Harley Race (c) vs. Jumbo Tsuruta - *** 3/4
6/11/1977

NWA World Title
Harley Race (c) vs. Mil Mascaras - ***
9/12/1980

Harley Race vs. Ric Flair - *** 1/4
5/22/1984


Overall: 7.5/10


- I was very surprised by how well I enjoyed the match with Baba, although the first 10-15 minutes are quite frustrating. At every open opportunity Baba goes for (and usually lands) a side headlock takeover and it's INCREDIBLY annoying. Constant headlocks or chinlocks? Come on guy, give me somethin different. But anyway once that shit ends it's a damn good match. Such a basic dynamic back in those days and it's very refreshing to see Harley slow the pace down and apply such a simple move like a head scissors and make it into a big turning point in the match where it takes Baba 3-4 minutes to get out of it. Bit of a human chess match, really enjoyed it. Awesome blade job from Harley too, great performance from him.

- The match with Abdullah technically only lasts like a minute or two because it becomes this huge brawl on the outside where Harley ends up bleeding from several parts of his body and then somehow gets a wooden crutch, breaks it, and uses it like a spike to stab the shit out of Abby. Eventually it goes out in the crowd and ends with a bloodied Race standing tall, bashing himself in the head with a chair and ramming his face into the ring post. Pretty fuckin awesome stuff.

- The match with Tsuruta is the best of the disc and is just a really crisp wrestling match with great storytelling. Race gets caught by Jumbo's quickness and loses the first fall but then throughout the rest of the match never lets Jumbo get any big flurries goin. Always managed to get out of the way of a cross body or step aside from a dropkick. Smart wrestling from Race and it did a great job in showing that Jumbo was a very good wrestler, but Harley was still the man and the kid wasn't ready to step up just yet.

- When the match with Mascaras rolled around Harley had a totally different look. Put on 20 or 30 pounds and had a much more rugged look. And of course he was now a full blown heel. Big contrast of styles in their match, Mascaras seemed to control it completely throughout. Move after move he'd hit until Harley got sick of it and hit a low blow or grabbed a chair. Pretty wild match that went all over the place until the ref finally called it a no contest. Mil never seemed to wanna sell much of what Race did, just cared about hitting his moves or getting to the next spot it seemed. Is this a recurring theme of his? Fun little match.

- It was weird seeing Flair/Race without something on the line, as Kerry Von Erich was in the midst of his short stint as NWA Champ. Just seemed like an exhibition match from two guys that knew each other extremely well. This is basically these two sleepwalking their way through a good match, but the crowd was hot the whole way through. Really cool to hear them yell Woo! and get behind every big move that was hit from the two Americans. Match had a couple flashes of brilliance, especially when Flair blocked the knee drop and swung it over into the figure four. Finishing sequence was nicely done as well, and it's really weird to see Flair lose 100% clean. Good match but the two had better obviously.

- I must stress how much I really enjoyed watching this. It's an IVP custom comp and the guy did a really good job of picking matches that showcased how smart of a wrestler Harley was while also showing he was one big badass. Definitely recommended for the matches from the 70s. Made me appreciate the guy a lot more.
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NJPW "NJPW 40TH ANNIVERSARY TOUR ~ ROAD TO DESTRUCTION", 07.09.2012 (J Sports)
Tokyo Korakuen Hall

1. Toru Yano & Takashi Iizuka besiegen Wataru Inoue & Hiromu Takahashi (6:42) Oni Korushi von Yano gegen Takahashi.
2. Low Ki, Averno , Rocky Romero, Alex Koslov besiegen Ryusuke Taguchi, Alex Shelley, Máscara Dorada & BUSHI (12:42) mit dem Devil's Wings von Averno gegen Dorada.
3. Yujiro Takahashi, Tomohiro Ishii & YOSHI-HASHI besiegen Jushin Thunder Liger, Tiger Mask & Captain New Japan (9:05) nach dem Tokyo Pimps von Takahashi gegen Captain.
4. Yuji Nagata, Togi Makabe, Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima besiegen Minoru Suzuki, Lance Archer, Harry Smith & TAKA Michinoku als TAKA disqualifiziert wurde.
5. Special Tag Match: Naomichi Marufuji & Mohammed Yone besiegen Tetsuya Naito & Tama Tonga (14:21) mit der Tiger Flowsion von Maurufuji gegen Tonga.
6. Special Tag Match: Hirooki Goto & Karl Anderson besiegen Shinsuke Nakamura & Kazuchika Okada (17:00) nach dem Gun Stun von Anderson gegen Nakamura.
7. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Title: Kota Ibushi (c) besiegt KUSHIDA (20:10) mit einem Sitout Last Ride (1st defense).
Naito wrestled with his knee heavily taped up so I guess the reports weren't accurate. I'd rather him just take the time off to let it fully heal. Feels like he's been working through little injuries for way too long already. Ibushi gave Ki and Taguchi title shots after retaining (but no BUSHI title match ).
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I'll be really impressed with New Japan if the Okada MITB storyline leads to him never losing till 1/4 next year and then beating Tanahashi for the Title.
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