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**Seabs** · 02-10-2012, 08:48 AM

It's so stupid that a promotion with a that runs events outside of Japan wouldn't want fans having access to their home shows when they don't release them on DVD abroad.

I mean how many wrestling fans would have got into New Japan or All Japan without buying tapes from sites like IVP.

It's kinda funny now that they had an endorsement for their Dragon Gate PPV DVDs with english commentary from Ricochet.

antoniomare007 · 02-10-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TelkEvolon

This one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IRxue6LRII

that's the one!

**Seabs** · 02-10-2012, 04:50 PM

Watched it today. It's great and holy cow Shinobu is the greatest in it but I didn't think it was MOTD worthy. Felt like it was lacking something to really push it up that high it didn't really get going until 10 minutes in.

**Cactus** · 02-10-2012, 06:26 PM

Legend Pro - Legend The Pro-Wrestling (2012/01/08)

Ebessan vs Kikutaro
What you come to expect out of these two. Semi-amusing match that I would of probably enjoyed more if I knew Japanese.
*

Bear Fukuda, Hiro Saito & Taro Kurashima vs Hayato Mashita, Super Tiger II & Tiger Shark
Heavily-influenced by shoot wrestling, this match's highlight was the rough beating Mashita took from the heel team.
**½

Alexander Otsuka & Tomoaki Honma vs Masato Tanaka & Tomohiro Ishii
The long slap exchange at the beginning of the match REALLY annoyed me. I intially thought that the wrestlers were just trying to create a fun match for the crowd and not necessarily a good match, but it soon turned into your typical Tanaka brawl, much to my approval.
**¾

El Samurai vs Original Tiger Mask
It's cool to see Samurai and Tiger Mask make a rare appearance, but this match was quite dull. The last two minutes were pretty cool though. A nice little back-and-forth finishing stretch.
**

Daichi Hashimoto vs Riki Choshu
The opening matwork was simple yet very effective. It put over Choshu as the experienced veteran and makes Daichi look like a rookie with something to prove. The match is mostly in Choshu's favor but not one soul in that building wanted him to win. The crowd was solely behind Daichi and rightfully so. He puts some much emotion in his desperation attacks you can't help but root for Baby Shinya.
***½

Mitsuya Nagai & Tatsumi Fujinami vs Yoshiaki Fujiwara & Yuki Ishikawa
The first five minutes of this great ten minute match is mostly matwork that really isn't pretty. There isn't any flawless transitions and nobody makes any progress but I do think this helped the match The mat-wrestling was mostly a struggle that nobody benefited from and now they all sre pissed off and just want to kick and punch the crap out of each other now. Fujiwara was really the star of the show. Even in his sixties, he can still pull out a great performance like this. He was the grizzled vet that added to tension to the opening parts of the match after bitch-slapping his opponents.
****

Overall:
I was expecting a fun show with plenty of rare appearances from familiar faces, but I got treated to two MOTYCs. The last two matches are must-see and it's up to you if you want to see the rest of the show.

**smitlick** · 02-10-2012, 10:50 PM

Dragon Gate shits me so fucking much. How in the fuck do they think people actually know any of there workers or care at all about Dragon Gate USA? Its because they obtain the DVDs from Traders or Download it illegally. They are really trying to kill there US market.

**TelkEvolon** · 02-10-2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by smitlick

Dragon Gate shits me so fucking much. How in the fuck do they think people actually know any of there workers or care at all about Dragon Gate USA? Its because they obtain the DVDs from Traders or Download it illegally. They are really trying to kill there US market.

I've noticed over the years it has been sweeped to the side and almost forgotten. You hear more talk about BJW, DDT and others.

It's had no YouTube prescence for years and people can only really find it if they are already looking for it.

Isolationists.

ダニエル · 02-11-2012, 06:11 AM

Although I don't necessarily think it's great for DG's business & exposure, it's not surprising at all. Don't forget that Americans aren't the only ones who can order from IVP. Gaora don't want their pay-tv material available for incredibly cheap prices, and Japanese people can easily buy from IVP. Whether they do or not, you'd have to ask Shoen, but it could well be happening. I also wouldn't be surprised if DG have discovered that the AMerican adventures aren't profitable, and that they're doing good enough business as is in Japan.

IVPvideos · 02-11-2012, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ダニエル

Although I don't necessarily think it's great for DG's business & exposure, it's not surprising at all. Don't forget that Americans aren't the only ones who can order from IVP. Gaora don't want their pay-tv material available for incredibly cheap prices, and Japanese people can easily buy from IVP. Whether they do or not, you'd have to ask Shoen, but it could well be happening. I also wouldn't be surprised if DG have discovered that the AMerican adventures aren't profitable, and that they're doing good enough business as is in Japan.

I have about four or five Japanese customers and they are always interested in the older stuff, especially the AJPW and NJPW Best of sets.

Honestly I am not too upset about this because that is the nature of the business that I am in. Some of the Dragon Gate USA stuff airs on their TV so maybe that is the reason behind it. I know that they have known I exist since before Dragon Gate USA started as I thought for sure that they would tell me to stop shilling it then. No worries, they are well within their right to do so and I really can't complain about that.

JoeRulz · 02-11-2012, 08:31 AM

DIAMOND RING debuts:

Spoiler for Diamond Ring:

Source: purolove.com

Sounds like a good show. I'll definitely check out the last two matches.

**Bubz** · 02-11-2012, 08:36 AM

on paper, Shingo/Nakajima sounds so awesome.