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post #1511 of 8123 (permalink) Old 12-15-2010, 01:53 PM
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re: Official Puro Match/DVD Discussion Thread (NO SPOILERS)

I'm of the opinion that current Japanese wrestling sucks the donkey cock, but I had sort of forgotten how great it used to be.

Jumbo Tsuruta, Akira Taue & Masa Fuchi v Mitsuharu Misawa, Toshiaki Kawada & Kenta Kobashi (All Japan, 1/24/92)
- Great match, which is to be expected from these six, although one of the "weaker" 6-mans between these exact teams. But Hell, it goes about 45 minutes and it feels like it's done in half the time, and not too many matches that go that long fly by as "quickly" as this. First half is controlled mostly by Misawa and co. Jumbo and his army of grumps can only really carve out small advantages and momentum shifts, but most of their time is spent on the back foot. Kawada is particularly pissed off and just hates everybody. At one point he knocks Taue off the apron with an elbow smash and later Fuchi gives him one back, even pointing over at Taue as if to say "This is for my boy, bitch." Kawada then tries to knock his teeth out at several points for having the audacity to get in his face like that. Of course FUCHI backs down from no one and, well, everybody is smacking each other in the teeth is what I'm saying. Jumbo's boys finally take over after Misawa lands awkwardly on a plancha and Fuchi starts going to town on his knee. Jumbo Tsuruta as the puro equivalent of Harry Callahan is definitely my favourite period of his career. That 12/4/91 tag is just about my favourite tag match ever and a large part of that is down to Jumbo not being afraid to get deeply contemptuous towards this Misawa flunky and punching him right in the eye socket. The heat segment on Misawa here isn't as transcendently great as it was there, but you still walk away from this with the sense that Jumbo and his buddies hate Misawa and his buddies with the fire of a thousand suns and wouldn't lose an iota of sleep if they crippled one of them. Has there ever been a more lovable curmudgeon in wrestling history than Fuchi? Misawa cleans his fucking clock with a forearm before the hot tag and I dare you not to feel sorry for the poor guy. Sure, Fuchi spent the best part of ten minutes trying to rip Misawa's leg off, so it was totally justified, but I mean, C'MON MAN, LOOK AT THAT FACE. Finishing stretch is the kind of Hell on wheels stretch you expect at this point, and Kobashi in particular is willing to die for our sins. Post-match Jumbo's crew celebrate in the ring while Kobashi lays there dead. Gotta love that. Star rating... IDK. "These Six". And a quarter.


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Am I the only one who wants to see Sekimoto head over to Ring of Honor in Kenny Omega's place Saturday night and toss around Eddie Edwards like a small child?
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I'm of the opinion that current Japanese wrestling sucks the donkey cock, but I had sort of forgotten how great it used to be.

Jumbo Tsuruta, Akira Taue & Masa Fuchi v Mitsuharu Misawa, Toshiaki Kawada & Kenta Kobashi (All Japan, 1/24/92)
- Great match, which is to be expected from these six, although one of the "weaker" 6-mans between these exact teams. But Hell, it goes about 45 minutes and it feels like it's done in half the time, and not too many matches that go that long fly by as "quickly" as this. First half is controlled mostly by Misawa and co. Jumbo and his army of grumps can only really carve out small advantages and momentum shifts, but most of their time is spent on the back foot. Kawada is particularly pissed off and just hates everybody. At one point he knocks Taue off the apron with an elbow smash and later Fuchi gives him one back, even pointing over at Taue as if to say "This is for my boy, bitch." Kawada then tries to knock his teeth out at several points for having the audacity to get in his face like that. Of course FUCHI backs down from no one and, well, everybody is smacking each other in the teeth is what I'm saying. Jumbo's boys finally take over after Misawa lands awkwardly on a plancha and Fuchi starts going to town on his knee. Jumbo Tsuruta as the puro equivalent of Harry Callahan is definitely my favourite period of his career. That 12/4/91 tag is just about my favourite tag match ever and a large part of that is down to Jumbo not being afraid to get deeply contemptuous towards this Misawa flunky and punching him right in the eye socket. The heat segment on Misawa here isn't as transcendently great as it was there, but you still walk away from this with the sense that Jumbo and his buddies hate Misawa and his buddies with the fire of a thousand suns and wouldn't lose an iota of sleep if they crippled one of them. Has there ever been a more lovable curmudgeon in wrestling history than Fuchi? Misawa cleans his fucking clock with a forearm before the hot tag and I dare you not to feel sorry for the poor guy. Sure, Fuchi spent the best part of ten minutes trying to rip Misawa's leg off, so it was totally justified, but I mean, C'MON MAN, LOOK AT THAT FACE. Finishing stretch is the kind of Hell on wheels stretch you expect at this point, and Kobashi in particular is willing to die for our sins. Post-match Jumbo's crew celebrate in the ring while Kobashi lays there dead. Gotta love that. Star rating... IDK. "These Six". And a quarter.


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Am I the only one who wants to see Sekimoto head over to Ring of Honor in Kenny Omega's place Saturday night and toss around Eddie Edwards like a small child?
I'd like to see that but its not going to happen.

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I'm still annoyed as to why they haven't bought Ibushi back or brought Sekimoto in.
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Probably no working visa.
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Could be a money issue too.

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Could be a money issue too.
Well unless Omega was coming back to North America for Christmas anyway, they'd probably have to fly him since he lives in Japan now. He can't be that much more of an expense than someone like Ibushi....


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Well unless Omega was coming back to North America for Christmas anyway, they'd probably have to fly him since he lives in Japan now. He can't be that much more of an expense than someone like Ibushi....
He likely is already back for the Holiday season. Would make sense.

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Ibushi's visa should be fine cause he's wrestled in EVOLVE and CHIKARA since his last ROH date. I dont think Pearce was as high on bringing outside names in for a few dates like Gabe would be during his era. Omega probably feels more of a commitment to helping ROH for a few shows because of the start they gave him. Ibushi doesn't have that. Ibushi is doing more than alright for himself in DDT and New Japan that he doesn't need to work US dates so he'd probably be quite expensive. Sekimoto's death match background might be a factor in ROH not bringing him in as well as the new managment. It was only really Gabe that brought lots of puro talent in.

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Sekimoto's death match background might be a factor in ROH not bringing him in as well as the new managment. It was only really Gabe that brought lots of puro talent in.
I hope not, that would be moronic. I mean ROH is not a traditional puro promotion to use that lame excuse and they had Necro Butcher working for them for a long ass time.

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