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#1 ·
About time we made a Puro thread seeing as there's an Indy one and it deserves a seperate thread. You can use this to discuss any Puro matches or shows, past or present.

I've just finished this awesome set so I may as well get the thread up and running with some ratings for it.


ivp's Top 25 Matches in NOAH History

Disc 1

25. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger & Koji Kanemoto vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi - January 26th 2003 - Kobe World Hall
***1/2

24. Mitsuharu Misawa & Yoshinari Ogawa vs. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA - April 25th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2+

23. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger vs. Makoto Hashi - March 6th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***3/4

Disc 2

22. Kenta Kobashi vs. Minoru Suzuki - January 8th 2005 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***3/4

21. Jun Akiyama & Takeshi Rikio vs. Takeshi Morishima & Muhammad Yone - April 1st 2007 - Tokyo Korakuen Hall
****1/4

20. Naomichi Marufuji & Minoru Suzuki vs. Makoto Hashi & Jun Akiyama - July 18th 2005 - Tokyo Dome
****

19. Jun Akiyama & Takeshi Rikio vs. Yoshihiro Takayama & Takashi Sugiura - April 28th 2007 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***3/4

Disc 3

18. Kenta Kobashi & Yoshihiro Takayama vs. Jun Akiyama & Mitsuharu Misawa - December 2nd 2007 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

17. Akira Taue vs. Yuji Nagata - June 6th 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***1/2

16. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Makoto Hashi - September 12th 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

Disc 4

15. Jun Akiyama & Akitoshi Saito vs. Kenta Kobashi & Tamon Honda - June 6th 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

14. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Juventud Guerrera & Ricky Marvin - November 1st 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

Disc 5

13. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Takashi Sugiura - June 5th 2005 - Sapporo Media Park Spica
****1/2

12. Takeshi Rikio & Takeshi Morishima vs. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA - July 16th 2006 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2

11. KENTA vs. SUWA - September 18th 2005 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

Disc 6

10. Kenta Kobashi vs. Akira Taue - September 10th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2

9. Kenta Kobashi & Kentaro Shiga vs. Jun Akiyama & Akitoshi Saito - 19th October 2002 - Tokyo Korakuen Hall
****

8. Naomichi Marufuji vs. KENTA - October 29th 2006 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****3/4+

Disc 7

7. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger & Takehiro Muruhama - July 16th 2003 - Osaka Prefectural Gymnasium
****1/2

6. Kenta Kobashi vs. Tamon Honda - April 13th 2003 - Tokyo Ariake Colosseum
****1/2

BONUS Kenta Kobashi vs Jun Akiyama - December 23rd 2000 - Tokyo Ariake Colosseum
****3/4

Disc 8

5. Kenta Kobashi vs. Yoshihiro Takayama - April 25th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2

4. Kenta Kobashi vs. Jun Akiyama - July 10th 2004 - Tokyo Dome
****3/4

Disc 9

3. Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi - March 1st 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
*****

2. Kenta Kobashi & Go Shiosaki vs. Kensuke Sasaki & Katsuhiko Nakajima - November 5th 2005 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
*****

1. Kenta Kobashi vs. Kensuke Sasaki - July 18th 2005 - Tokyo Dome
*****

Overall:
Absolutely amazing comp. Perfect for any new NOAH fans with an insane amount of brilliant matches.
 
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#2,820 ·
All Japan Tag League 2011
All Japan Pro-Wrestling - "REAL WORLD TAG LEAGUE 2011"

Teams:
- Suwama & Takumi Soya
- Masakatsu Funaki & Masayuki Kono
- Akebono & Ryota Hama
- Taiyo Kea & Masanobu Fuchi
- KENSO & Kaz Hayashi
- Seiya Sanada & KAI
- Takao Omori & Manabu Soya
- Koji Kanemoto & Minoru Tanaka
- Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi
- Big Daddy & Joe Doering

AJPW, 19.11.2011 (GAORA TV)
Tokyo Korakuen Hall

1. Real World Tag League: KENSO & Kaz Hayashi vs. Koji Kanemoto & Minoru Tanaka
2. Real World Tag League: Akebono & Ryota Hama vs. Taiyo Kea & Masanobu Fuchi
3. Real World Tag League: Seiya Sanada & KAI vs. Takao Omori & Manabu Soya
4. Real World Tag League: Masakatsu Funaki & Masayuki Kono vs. Big Daddy & Joe Doering
5. Real World Tag League: Suwama & Takumi Soya vs. Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi


AJPW, 20.11.2011
Minowa Town Nagata Dome

1. Real World Tag League: Taiyo Kea & Masanobu Fuchi vs. Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi
2. Real World Tag League: Masakatsu Funaki & Masayuki Kono vs. Takao Omori & Manabu Soya
3. Real World Tag League: Suwama & Takumi Soya vs. Big Daddy & Joe Doering


AJPW, 22.11.2011
Hitachinaka City Gymnasium

1. Real World Tag League: Akebono & Ryota Hama vs. Koji Kanemoto & Minoru Tanaka
2. Real World Tag League: Taiyo Kea & Masanobu Fuchi vs. Seiya Sanada & KAI
3. Real World Tag League: KENSO & Kaz Hayashi vs. Takao Omori & Manabu Soya


AJPW, 23.11.2011 (Samurai! TV)
Tokyo Korakuen Hall

1. Real World Tag League: Taiyo Kea & Masanobu Fuchi vs. KENSO & Kaz Hayashi
2. Real World Tag League: Masakatsu Funaki & Masayuki Kono vs. Koji Kanemoto & Minoru Tanaka
3. Real World Tag League: Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi vs. Big Daddy & Joe Doering
4. Real World Tag League: Akebono & Ryota Hama vs. Takao Omori & Manabu Soya
5. Real World Tag League: Suwama & Takumi Soya vs. Seiya Sanada & KAI


AJPW, 24.11.2011
Fukui Industrial Hall

1. Real World Tag League: Takao Omori & Manabu Soya vs. Koji Kanemoto & Minoru Tanaka
2. Real World Tag League: Akebono & Ryota Hama vs. Seiya Sanada & KAI
3. Real World Tag League: Suwama & Takumi Soya vs. Taiyo Kea & Masanobu Fuchi


AJPW, 26.11.2011
Toyooka Citizen Gymnasium

1. Real World Tag League: Koji Kanemoto & Minoru Tanaka vs. Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi
2. Real World Tag League: Takao Omori & Manabu Soya vs. Big Daddy & Joe Doering
3. Real World Tag League: Suwama & Takumi Soya vs. Akebono & Ryota Hama


AJPW, 27.11.2011 (GAORA TV)
Osaka Prefectural Gymnasium #2

1. Real World Tag League: Takao Omori & Manabu Soya vs. Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi
2. Real World Tag League: KENSO & Kaz Hayashi vs. Seiya Sanada & KAI
3. Real World Tag League: Akebono & Ryota Hama vs. Big Daddy & Joe Doering
4. Real World Tag League: Suwama & Takumi Soya vs. Masakatsu Funaki & Masayuki Kono


AJPW, 28.11.2011
Shunan City Sports Center

1. Real World Tag League: Koji Kanemoto & Minoru Tanaka vs. Big Daddy & Joe Doering
2. Real World Tag League: KENSO & Kaz Hayashi vs. Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi
3. Real World Tag League: Masakatsu Funaki & Masayuki Kono vs. Seiya Sanada & KAI


AJPW, 29.11.2011
Fukuyama Big Rose

1. Real World Tag League: Seiya Sanada & KAI vs. Koji Kanemoto & Minoru Tanaka
2. Real World Tag League: Taiyo Kea & Masanobu Fuchi vs. Takao Omori & Manabu Soya
3. Real World Tag League: Masakatsu Funaki & Masayuki Kono vs. KENSO & Kaz Hayashi


AJPW, 01.12.2011
Nagoya International Conference Hall

1. Real World Tag League: Taiyo Kea & Masanobu Fuchi vs. Big Daddy & Joe Doering
2. Real World Tag League: Akebono & Ryota Hama vs. KENSO & Kaz Hayashi
3. Real World Tag League: Suwama & Takumi Soya vs. Koji Kanemoto & Minoru Tanaka
4. Real World Tag League: Masakatsu Funaki & Masayuki Kono vs. Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi


AJPW, 02.12.2011
Twin Messe Shizuoka

1. Real World Tag League: Seiya Sanada & KAI vs. Big Daddy & Joe Doering
2. Real World Tag League: Akebono & Ryota Hama vs. Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi
3. Real World Tag League: Masakatsu Funaki & Masayuki Kono vs. Taiyo Kea & Masanobu Fuchi
4. Real World Tag League: Suwama & Takumi Soya vs. KENSO & Kaz Hayashi


AJPW, 04.12.2011 (GAORA TV)
Yokohama Bunka Gymnasium

1. Real World Tag League: Taiyo Kea & Masanobu Fuchi vs. Koji Kanemoto & Minoru Tanaka
2. Real World Tag League: KENSO & Kaz Hayashi vs. Big Daddy & Joe Doering
3. Real World Tag League: Seiya Sanada & KAI vs. Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi
4. Real World Tag League: Masakatsu Funaki & Masayuki Kono vs. Akebono & Ryota Hama
5. Real World Tag League: Suwama & Takumi Soya vs. Takao Omori & Manabu Soya
6. Real World Tag League - Final:
 
#2,824 ·
Posted this in the MOTYC thread earlier...

Just watched Nakajima vs Suzuki II. Awesome match and I liked it a lot more than their first match this year. I loved the first portion of the match with Nakajima just dominating Kotaro completely with strikes. Nakajima knows how to do a workover segment just using strikes and a few submissions and keep it really fun at the same time. What seemed like Kotaro's comeback was slightly ruined by a botched suicide dive which kind of hurt the flow for a minute, but it allowed Nakajima to control the match for a bit longer which is a good thing as I think Suzuki is best playing the underdog and making a comeback. There is a slight second botch on the turnbuckle but it didn't really hurt the match at all. The eventual comeback is awesome though and leads to an epic finishing stretch with a completely unexpected ending that is very rare to see. *SPOILERS* the finish with the strikes and then the eventual KO kick by Nakajima was awesome and one of the best and well done strike exchanges this year I think. ****1/4
 
#2,827 ·
Yeah, I love this match. That finish was super cool, very refreshing and realistic. Kotaro's botches actually helped the match, and you can't really blame him because his head was probably fucked up from Jima's lethal kicks, lol. ***3/4
 
#2,830 ·
Just watched Go, Sugiura & Taniguchi Vs NO MERCY on 11/09, and it was lots of fun, non-stop action since start to finish. Sugiura Vs KENTA and Go Vs KENTA are announced to be great, as well Takayama Vs Go, but I've watched the last and I completely was. ***3/4
 
#2,834 · (Edited)
Shit, I was literally just watching Benoit/Sasuke to see if it was as good as I remembered it.

Also just watched Sasuke/Liger from 94, an awesome match, not 5* for me but pretty close I would say.

I'm getting on that Eddie/Benoit match right now! By the way is Eddie wrestling as Black Tiger in that 96 match?
 
#2,835 ·
Eddie/Benoit BOSJ 1996 is their best match, great build in the technical exchanges that establish Benoit as the better of the two and giving Eddie reason to resort to his superior athleticism. They run through some great sequences, have a nifty finishing run and play off the 1994 Super Cup Match IIRC.

Sasuke/Liger is really great, although it wasn't as amazing as I remembered it being though I did love the Veteran Liger vs Indy darling Sasuke and how it made the ending botch fit into the match, even though it does kill some of the heat at the end. Chalk it up to Liger improvising like a freaking genius.

P.S- Liger talk makes me want to tell Cactus/Bubz to watch the Liger vs Sano trilogy from mid 1989-1990. Its in his prime Sano who's incredible vs at his peak Liger, you get some of the best Juniors matches of all time with the final encounter being their best IMO, unless I've confused it with the second one.


P.P.S- when you're done watching that, get around in the near future to Ohtani/Ultimo from 1996, believed by many to be the GOAT Juniors match simply through Ohtani's performance. I know Bubz in particular is a big fan of the 'young lion trying to prove he's the best' story and this match captures that dynamic to perfection.
 
#2,838 ·
Third Sano Vs Liger is the only NJPW juniors bout I've given the full monty. Balls to wall.

Although, I watched Go/Sugiura and KENTA/Sugiura this afternoon and I think they are the best matches NOAH has done this year right behind Nakajima/Suzuki II. ****1/2
 
#2,839 ·
Just saw my first Liger singles match in many years and my first El Samurai match. From Super J cup I think, the one where El gets his mask ripped off. Didn't think too much of it. There were no pin attempts until around the last 3-4 minutes of this 22ish minute match which i thought really brought down the drama.

As ashamed as I am to admit, the only Benoit match I've seen from Japan is him vs. Tiger Mask III which had a couple botches but is pretty much a template for what juniors should go by. The most basic but awesome match imo.
 
#2,840 ·
So, I've watched a lot of awesome stuff tonight.

Jushin Liger vs Great Sasuke 94
Great match, but I thought it was missing another few minutes on the end. Not as good as I thought it was when I watched it a few years ago, but still really enjoyable. ****1/4

Great Sasuke vs Chris Benoit(Wild Pegasus) BOSJ 94 Final
This was just as awesome as I remember it being when I first saw it a few years ago. ****1/2

Benoit (Wild Pegasus) vs Eddie (Black Tiger II) BOSJ 96
This is something special right here. An easy 5* classic and it shoot's right up there with some of my favourite matches ever. The story is amazing, Benoit constantly grounding and working over Eddie with sleepers and what not, and the crowd getting really into it cheering for him to get back into the match. The finishing stretch is awesome with great believable near falls and some epic counters, especially the two guys fighting to hit the tombstone, and then later doing it again but from the top rope! The Black Tiger Bomb is like my favorite finishing move ever aswell. I can safely say this is one of, if not the best juniors match I've seen, and that these two are two of the best to ever step inside a wrestling ring. Amazing. *****

Liger vs Sano I 07/13/89
This was great, but it probably would have been even better if Sano hadn't got messed up. Man, he took an evil combination of moves to the floor, and afterwards he was falling all over the place which wasn't good to see, but in a way it kind of added to the match at the same time. It added to the match because Sano gained sympathy for it and everyone was pulling for him to win, but took away from it because there were parts that got a bit sloppy and looked really dangerous because he wasn't with it. The action was amazing throughout though and the time limit draw was really well done. ****1/4

Liger vs Sano II 10/08/80
This one is completely different from the first match in every way. While the first match was more balls to the wall action, this one was much more methodical, and it was awesome. Sano goes straight after Liger's arm, and Liger proceeds to do one of the best sell jobs I've ever seen. He sell's the absolute shit out of his arm, never forgetting about it, constantly leaving it limp by his side and grabbing at it for the whole match, awesome stuff. Seriously, some of the newer guy's need to just watch this and take notes. Sano gets busted open from a missed suicide dive and Liger relentlessly goes after his head with vicious kicks and a piledriver on the floor! Sano goes after the arm again and I thought it was over right then in an awesome near fall. The match actually didn't end on a submission though which was kind of dissapointing, but it ended with Sano beating Liger with the move he hit in the first match just as the time limit expired! Awesome touch there that made it look like Sano would have won the first match if not for the time. ****1/2

Liger vs Sano III 31/01/90
It starts off with Liger slapping Sano really fucking hard, then starting off quick with strikes, but then Sano completely snaps. He just starts going crazy with punches to Liger's head, and this time it's Sano who hits Liger with a piledriver on the floor and then a tombstone. Liger then gets the living shit beat out of him and it's Sano going after the head this time instead. HE RIPS HIS MASK OFF! Again Liger busts out an epic selling job, probably even better than the previous match, he literally looks dead. Sano goes full retard and uses a THUMB TO THE EYE! That's uncalled for. Liger is bleeding like hell and with his mask ripped off it looks awesome and kind of scary. Liger tries to make comeback's but is always cut off by Sano who is one step ahead every time because Liger has lost so much blood and taken numerous strikes and moves to the skull. This is an epic workover and an even more epic sell job. Eevn though I knew the result I was marking every time Liger attempted a comeback. The finishing stretch was just awesomeness, and I would just like to say I've never seen a Liger match that goes overkill at all and it's awesome because his finishers are completely believable every time. Liger hit's Sano with a SICK tombestone and then pulls out a SSP for the win. Amazing, one of the best matches I've ever seen, up there with most of the AJPW stuff for me and definitely the best Jr match I've ever seen. *****

Awesome trilogy of matches that got better each time and really played off of the previous matches each time as well. Sano was awesome back then, it's kind of a shame because from what I've seen recently he can't do much other than kicks. Liger was just amazing in these matches.

So yeah, I had a good night :p.
 
#2,841 ·
Which Liger/Ssauke is that? J-Cup or the July rematch? Last time I watched the July one months ago I thought it was about on par with Rey/Eddy from Halloween Havoc.

Sano's typically good. I can;t speak for what he does (heard it was all donkey kicks or something- which I literally picture as him putting both hands on the ground and thrusting both legs outward), but he has some really, really good stuff from past decades.

All those matches fucking rock, yes.
 
#2,842 · (Edited)
He was awesome in PWFG and UWF as well, and most people call him one of the best workers of his time for how good he was at such a young age, I so desperately want to order the PWFG set in the near future and Sano vs Shamrock will be the first match watched.

Awesome to see you love Liger/Sano and Benoit/Eddie so much, some of the best juniords matches ever.


Now Lawler will be your next discovery :D


Edit: The July Match Yeah1993 talked about is up on Youtube now.
 
#2,843 ·
NOAH "GLOBAL LEAGUE 2011 EVE", 03.11.2011
Sendai Industrial Exhibition Mansion Aztec
1,050 Fans - Super No Vacancy

1. Yoshinari Ogawa besiegt Genba Hirayanagi (5:53) mit einem Backdrop Hold.
2. Kotaro Suzuki, Atsushi Aoki & Taiji Ishimori besiegen Ricky Marvin, Mikey Nicholls & Shane Haste (11:28) nach einem 450° Splash von Ishimori gegen Haste.
3. Global League - Block A: Takeshi Morishima [2] besiegt Yoshinobu Kanemaru [0] (3:57) mit einem Backdrop Suplex.
4. Global League - Block B: KENTA [2] besiegt Shuhei Taniguchi [0] (11:51) mit dem Go 2 Sleep.
5. Kenta Kobashi & Takuma Sano besiegen Mohammed Yone & Masao Inoue (14:52) nach einer Short Range Strong Arm Lariat von Kobashi gegen Inoue.
6. Global League - Block A: Yoshihiro Takayama [2] besiegt Yutaka Yoshie [0] (9:48) mit einem Everest German Suplex Hold.
7. Global League - Block B: Akitoshi Saito [2] besiegt Takashi Sugiura [0] (16:20) mit dem Death End.
8. Global League - Block A: Go Shiozaki [1] vs. Jun Akiyama [1] - Time Limit Draw (30:00).
and there you have the first of many 30 minute time limit draws.

fpalm
 
#2,849 ·
Was this televised? Shima, KENTAH and Takayama winning, fuck yeah, my boys are runnin' wild!

I think THIS draw makes sense. Go is the GHC champion and Akiyama the TC champ. So why shouldn't they fight to a draw? who should've won this?
Also, this. I definitely want to see this match, their 8/6 match was tremendous.
 
#2,848 ·
The problem isn't those 2 having a draw. The problem is THOSE 2 having a 30 minute draw and the fact that in every league that NOAH does they'll have loads of 30 minute draws, just look at their tag league. Squash matches in the fucking Global League is a joke too but I guess it's better than Kanemaru going 10+ minutes with a guy like Morishima. As long as Murdoch/Takayma is as great as I know it can be I'll be happy with this league. I'M NOT ASKING FOR MUCH!
 
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