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Official Puro Match/DVD Discussion Thread (NO SPOILERS)

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#1 ·
About time we made a Puro thread seeing as there's an Indy one and it deserves a seperate thread. You can use this to discuss any Puro matches or shows, past or present.

I've just finished this awesome set so I may as well get the thread up and running with some ratings for it.


ivp's Top 25 Matches in NOAH History

Disc 1

25. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger & Koji Kanemoto vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi - January 26th 2003 - Kobe World Hall
***1/2

24. Mitsuharu Misawa & Yoshinari Ogawa vs. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA - April 25th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2+

23. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger vs. Makoto Hashi - March 6th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***3/4

Disc 2

22. Kenta Kobashi vs. Minoru Suzuki - January 8th 2005 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***3/4

21. Jun Akiyama & Takeshi Rikio vs. Takeshi Morishima & Muhammad Yone - April 1st 2007 - Tokyo Korakuen Hall
****1/4

20. Naomichi Marufuji & Minoru Suzuki vs. Makoto Hashi & Jun Akiyama - July 18th 2005 - Tokyo Dome
****

19. Jun Akiyama & Takeshi Rikio vs. Yoshihiro Takayama & Takashi Sugiura - April 28th 2007 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***3/4

Disc 3

18. Kenta Kobashi & Yoshihiro Takayama vs. Jun Akiyama & Mitsuharu Misawa - December 2nd 2007 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

17. Akira Taue vs. Yuji Nagata - June 6th 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
***1/2

16. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Makoto Hashi - September 12th 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

Disc 4

15. Jun Akiyama & Akitoshi Saito vs. Kenta Kobashi & Tamon Honda - June 6th 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

14. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Juventud Guerrera & Ricky Marvin - November 1st 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

Disc 5

13. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Takashi Sugiura - June 5th 2005 - Sapporo Media Park Spica
****1/2

12. Takeshi Rikio & Takeshi Morishima vs. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA - July 16th 2006 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2

11. KENTA vs. SUWA - September 18th 2005 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/4

Disc 6

10. Kenta Kobashi vs. Akira Taue - September 10th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2

9. Kenta Kobashi & Kentaro Shiga vs. Jun Akiyama & Akitoshi Saito - 19th October 2002 - Tokyo Korakuen Hall
****

8. Naomichi Marufuji vs. KENTA - October 29th 2006 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****3/4+

Disc 7

7. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger & Takehiro Muruhama - July 16th 2003 - Osaka Prefectural Gymnasium
****1/2

6. Kenta Kobashi vs. Tamon Honda - April 13th 2003 - Tokyo Ariake Colosseum
****1/2

BONUS Kenta Kobashi vs Jun Akiyama - December 23rd 2000 - Tokyo Ariake Colosseum
****3/4

Disc 8

5. Kenta Kobashi vs. Yoshihiro Takayama - April 25th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
****1/2

4. Kenta Kobashi vs. Jun Akiyama - July 10th 2004 - Tokyo Dome
****3/4

Disc 9

3. Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi - March 1st 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
*****

2. Kenta Kobashi & Go Shiosaki vs. Kensuke Sasaki & Katsuhiko Nakajima - November 5th 2005 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan
*****

1. Kenta Kobashi vs. Kensuke Sasaki - July 18th 2005 - Tokyo Dome
*****

Overall:
Absolutely amazing comp. Perfect for any new NOAH fans with an insane amount of brilliant matches.
 
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#300 ·
By the way, what's everyone's top 5 New Japan matches ever?
Jushin Liger v Naoki Sano (1/31/90)
Antonio Inoki/Tatsumi Fujinami/Yoshiaki Fujiwara/Nobuhiko Takada/Kengo Kimura v Riki Choshu/Yoshiaki Yatsu/Kuniaki Kobayashi/Isamu Teranishi/Animal Hamaguchi (Gauntlet match 4/19/84)
Black Tiger v Wild Pegasus (6/11/96)
Yoshiaki Fujiwara v Riki Choshu (6/9/87)
Bob Backlund v Antonio Inoki (7/27/78)

No real order. Stuff like Hashimoto/Hase, Hashimoto/Fujiwara, Hashimoto/Tenryu, Liger/Samurai, Liger/Sasuke x2, Kawada-Fuchi/Nagata-Iizuka, Kawada/Sasaki, Murdoch-Adonis/Inoki-Fujinami, Inoki/Murdoch, Inoki/Fujiwara, Inoki/Robinson, Fujinami/Madea, Muta/Chono, Hashimoto/Choshu, the 3/26/86 New Japan v UWF elimination match, Sasuke/Benoit, Liger/Sano (8/10/89) etc. are all good shouts. Probably forgetting some as well. Haven't worked my way through all of the New Japan 80s set yet so there's bound to be more on that as well.
 
#291 ·
The Vader-Inoki match never gets old for me, probably wouldn't make my top 5 though. In fact I haven't seen a lot from eighties New Japan so my list is nineties heavy.

Chris Benoit vs. Great Sasuke 4/16/94
Liger vs Sano 1/31/90
Liger vs Ohtani 2/9/97
Tenryu vs Hashimoto G1 98
Kawada & Fuchi vs Nagata & Iizuka 12/14/00

I always loved the Hashimoto-Liger match too, not sure what the general consensus is on it. My judgement might be clouded by those two being two of my favourites.

That's pretty all over the place but I haven't seen a lot of the stuff people love from New Japan so its just from what I have seen. I've been meaning to get started on the stuff from the eighties too.
 
#292 ·
I'd probably go with this for my top 5 as far as 1990+ goes. Need to bone up on the Inoki era.

Liger vs Sano - 1/30/90
Liger vs Sasuke II - 7/??/94 (J-Cup follow up)
Hashimoto vs Hase - 12/14/94
Ohtani vs Ultimo Dragon - J-Crown Semi Finals (8/2/96)
Kawada/Fuchi vs Nagata/Iizuka 12/14/00

Big love for The entire 94 J-Cup, Hashimoto vs Tenryu G-1 98, Hash vs Liger, Hashimoto vs Choshu 96 G-1, Vader/Inoki and the Mutoh/Chono G-1 91 Final
 
#297 · (Edited)
Yeah its part of Inoki's countdown, it's basically Vader destroying Inoki for the whole match. I've seen some people hate on the ending but it didn't bother me at all. Maybe check out Vader-Hansen from 2/10/90 too.

Hashimoto-Hase and the G1 with Choshu would be in my top ten. Probably Hash-Takada too.

A more recent match, well not really recent I guess, I love is the Kawada-Sasaki Dome match, one of my favourite matches from 2000.

EDIT: That Vader Inoki match is definetly longer than 4 minutes.
 
#303 · (Edited)
I would if I had ripping software. DVD Shrink won't work on my computer for whatever reason and when I downloaded something else to use it fucked my computer and I had to spend 4 hours trying to fix it. Haven't bothered using anything else since.

I know Choshu/Fujiwara is online, though, because that's how I first saw it. I'll try and find a link. The gauntlet might be, but I don't know if I've seen it anywhere. Whole thing lasts 80 minutes so it'd probably be a pretty hefty file if it were in good quality.

Thanks.

Okay, now I can ask you, cause you're like almighty Memphis-knower on WF. What are your thoughts (and snowflakes, don't forget the snowflakes) for the Lawler/Idol Hair Vs Hair Cage match?
Top ten match in company history, probably. Closer to top 5 if you stick to just that decade. The whole angle that's mixed in with it is pretty tremendous, especially given the outcome. The way it's done is perfect. ****1/4

The two lead-in tags where Lawler teams with Bigelow are excellent as well. Set everything up really well.


EDIT: Found a link to Choshu/Fujiwara. Could only find it on sendspace. http://www.sendspace.com/file/i5hn0b
 
#308 ·
Been watching the All Japan-WWF Wrestling Summit. Can't complain, good show so far. match of the Night as of yet is Mask/Hart, despite how boring it got at times.

You better not fucking die, i don't wanna see Other Wrestling go downhill like puroresu :(
You'd have to create a new section called THE ARK and start taking the roster of Other Wrestling with you. Depleting it's talent and taking it's spot as the no. 2 section on the Forum.

Assuming you're Misawa. Oh, and I get dibs on being VADER.

i'll probably be on here more often again.
That's kinda awesome.

So is Andy, thanks for the link. I'll probably never watch it like the other 463 links I've thanked people for, but it's good to have.
 
#311 ·
holy shit that Choshu/Fujiwara match had one of the hottest crowds i've ever seen in puroresu, they where going apeshit at every big move that Fujiwara aplied. Incredible stuff.

also, finally watched

Lion Heart (Chris Jericho) vs Ultimo Dragon - WAR 7/7/95


Super fun spotfest with tons of reversals, they had the fans guessing who would win for a long ass time with some great nearfalls. This is the match that Jericho mentions in his book (wich is a must read for any wrestling fan, i posted it in the wwe misc. section) and that impressed Mick Foley so much that he ended up helping Jericho to get a job in ECW.
 
#314 ·

Lion Heart (Chris Jericho) vs Ultimo Dragon - WAR 7/7/95


Super fun spotfest with tons of reversals, they had the fans guessing who would win for a long ass time with some great nearfalls. This is the match that Jericho mentions in his book (wich is a must read for any wrestling fan, i posted it in the wwe misc. section) and that impressed Mick Foley so much that he ended up helping Jericho to get a job in ECW.
Loved this. Pissed off about it being JIP, but it was still something I'd watch a few times.
 
#316 ·
14 of the 16 participants of the Super-J Cup have been announced:


1. Taichi (NJPW)
2. Tigers Mask (Osaka Pro)
3. GENTARO (Freedoms)
4. AKIRA
5. Jado (NJPW)
6. Gedo (NJPW)
7. Prince Devitt (NJPW)
8. Ryusuke Taguchi (NJPW)
9. Fujita "Jr." Hayato (M-Pro)
10. YAMATO (Dragon Gate)
11. Atsushi Aoki (NOAH)
12. Danshoku Dino (DDT)
13. Koji Kanemoto (NJPW)
14. X
15. X
16. Jushin Thunder Liger (NJPW)

way to many New Japan wrestlers IMO, really weird that Ibushi is not in it too. One the "X" should be a CMLL wrestler
 
#317 ·
Kanemoto for the win please!
 
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