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ROH - A Cut Above

Eddie Edwards vs Bryan Danielson - ***

Chris Hero vs Colt Cabana - ***

Davey Richards vs Tyler Black

Very good, enjoyable match. Another good performance from Davey, this time clashed with another weak one from Tyler. I'll put it this way: Davey - loads of personality. Tyler - None. Davey - lots of good armwork. Tyler - forgets it ever happened once he makes his comeback. It's a shame what Tyler's become now, especially since he was the hottest thing of 2008 and one of the best wrestlers on the roster. Now he's getting boring and predictable. He had his routine offense in full force in this one, busting out that failed Quebrada/SSP combo, that failed dropkick/backflip, the Pele kick, the flip to the outside, all of that. The way I see it, this was a carry job from Davey, I'm sad to say. The crowd was ok for the first half of the match, but once things went into a higher gear, they were loving this and so was I because it was a good finishing stretch, very enjoyable despite some of it being the same old shit from Tyler. The actual finish was brilliant and exciting, yet also leaving room for a third match, something which most matches seem to want to accomplish now. I loved how Davey just got leveled with two superkicks and the Buckle Bomb, but still got the rollup with the tights out of nowhere. And he DIDN'T forget to sell the superkicks when he left the ring. A very good match, the best so far on this show.


Dark City Fight Club vs Kevin Steen & Jay Briscoe - ***1/4

ROH World Championship
Jerry Lynn vs Roderick Strong

Holy shit at Roderick's cut! It was like a 9 or 10 on the Muta Scale and was just sick to look at. To be honest, this match wasn't that great until Roderick took that head bump into the guardrail, but once that happened, the crowd livened up a lot more and this got a lot more dramatic and exciting to watch. I reckon that botch (or just a very well-worked spot/blade), made this match a LOT better than it was going to be. Everyone was just 100% behind Roderick after it and were just begging for him to win the title. To make things more dramatic, he was still getting dropped on his head. The intensity went up a few notches during the submission attempts, when you could clearly see the blood dripping quickly down his chest, and the screaming. The nearfalls were really good too, with Lynn getting hit by everything and still kicking out. Then Roderick kicks out of the Cradle Piledriver, just to put him over even more. Similar to how I felt about Nigel during his match with Aries at Rising Above, mucho respect goes to Roderick after this. Just gets the full 4* treatment from me.

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I don't really see much to respect someone for when they continue working a match after receiving a severe concussion during it just three months after Nowinki's report came out on Benoit.

Was it a miracle that he had one of the best matches of the decade after getting that concussion? Yes. But that's why it's called a miracle. I respect people for when they make things happen on their own accord, not when divine intervention makes it a miracle. If anything, it was a testament to Aries.
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I respect him for continuing the match when he didn't have to. I respect that despite the fact Roderick and Nigel were bleeding buckets, they kept going so as not to dissapoint the fans and ruin the main event. I don't know if Roderick got a concussion or not, but I'm guessing he didn't since he did a spot on a videowire backstage afterwards, but to me it's admirable that he kept working through that gash.

Also, explain to me how you can tell the difference between a miracle and Nigel doing so on his own accord.
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He said the next day he hardly remembered anything.
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I don't know much about concussions, but my guess is he forgot because of it. He looked dazed during the match, but still pretty aware of what he was doing.
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PWG Holy Diver Down

Joey Ryan vs. Top Gun Talwar *

Ricky Reyes vs. Ronin **

Karl "Machine Gun" Anderson vs. "The Future" Frankie Kazarian ***

Arrogance (Chris Bosh & Scott Lost) vs. Motor City Machine Guns (Chris Sabin & Alex Shelley) ***

2-Out-Of-3 Falls Match
Bino Gambino vs. Disco Machine **

"The Man That Gravity Forgot" PAC vs. Kevin Steen ***

PWG World Championship
Human Tornado (w/ Candice LeRae) (c) vs. El Generico ***


An ok show really. But to be honest, I expected a bit more. PAC/Steen was almost as good as I remembered it to be (the first PWG match I ever saw) and the main event was a solid outing. I liked MMG/Arrogance, but it felt like dragging on way too long, and as if they just absolutely had to continue doing spots and whatnot to make it look like a classic.

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"The Man That Gravity Forgot" PAC vs. Kevin Steen ***
How many times did PAC almost die during that? 3 was it?

ROH Supercard Of Honor

Four Corner Survival
Ricky Reyes vs. Delirious vs. Flash Flanagan vs. Shane Hagadorn
I'd forgotten the days when Delirious was so over. *

Jimmy Rave and Alex Shelley vs. Claudio Castagnoli and Jimmy Yang ***

First Blood Match

Ace Steel vs. Chad Collyer **

AJ Styles and Matt Sydal vs. Austin Aries and Jack Evans
imo 1 of the most underrated tag matches in ROH history. Just seriously great fun from start to finish. ****

Blood Generation vs. Do Fixer
My 5th time watching this and I've finally decided to take it down from the full 5. Still crazy though. ****

Six Woman Mayhem

Lacey vs. Daizee Haze vs. Allison Danger vs. MsChif vs. Rain vs. Cheerleader Melissa **

Homicide vs. Mitch Franklin *

Samoa Joe vs. Christopher Daniels vs. Jimmy Jacobs ***-***

ROH World Title Match

Bryan Danielson vs. Roderick Strong
I need to rewatch their Vendetta match to see which I prefer but this was the first time seeing this and I fucking loved it. I don't think there is anyway Strong's hand wasn't seriously hurting after he chopped the ringpost during this because the sound it made was awful. ****

Except for the opener and the Homicide squash, Everything on the card was enjoyable in some way. I also started thinking when the show was over and realised that probably close to 75% of Danielson's ROH matches in 06 were ****+.

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Danielson was like Flair in '89 during '06.

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ROH: Never Say Die

Delirious vs. Ricky Reyes **1/2
Rhett Titus & Kenny King vs. The Super Smash Brothers **1/2
Jay Briscoe vs. The Necro Butcher **1/2
Anything Goes Match: Davey Richards vs. Kevin Steen ****
Bryan Danielson vs. Sonjay Dutt vs. Eddie Edwards ***
Colt Cabana, Erick Stevens, & Brent Albright vs. The Embassy ***
ROH World Title Match: Jerry Lynn vs. Chris Hero ***1/2

ROH: Validation

Eddie Kingston vs. Ricky Reyes **1/2
Brent Albright & Erick Stevens vs. The Super Smash Brothers **1/2
Sonjay Dutt vs. Chris Hero ***
Necro Butcher & Delirious vs. Jimmy Rave & Claudio Castagnoli **1/4
Rhett Titus & Kenny King vs. Alex Payne & Grizzly Redwood *
Joey Ryan vs. Colt Cabana ***1/4
World Tag Team Title Match: The American Wolves vs. Kevin Steen & Bryan Danielson ****
ROH World Title Match: Jerrry Lynn vs. Jay Briscoe ***
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Just re-watched KENTA/Davey to get a better assessment of my opinion, and I still have it as the full five. And that's because of Davey. KENTA sort of looked like he was going through the motions, whereas Davey was actually trying to make it special. It wasn't a carry job, but the reason it was as good as it was was because of Davey.

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