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Old 11-16-2010, 04:42 AM   #6071 (permalink)
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I don't see what the big deal is about all of the Davey cocksucking he gets around here. Some of his matches are entertaining enough and he is better than he was a few years ago but i'm not a fan.
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:19 AM   #6072 (permalink)
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I went back and watched Richards vs. Rave from Unified, I hated Richards back then, I love him now. So he has improved greatly, whether your a fan or not.
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:53 AM   #6073 (permalink)
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Sami Callihan is instant fast-forward material. I've given him enough chances and he will never be anything other than shitty. His promos are horrendous, his facial expressions are worse, and he can't do anything remotely interesting in the ring. He just sucks.

Also, I'm officially off the Davey Richards bandwagon. Like Tyler Black in mid-09, he's had enough of a main event run that his matches are getting exposed as not much more than lots of cool moves that disguise the fact that he has no character depth whatsoever and no idea how to work more than one style of match.

The problem with ROH recently has been that they don't know when to pull the trigger on a guy, and as a result they have the most anticlimactic title reigns possible. The wrestler most people want to see should be in the main event, and the main event should very often include the world champ. If the world champ isn't the wrestler most people want to see, then you've got the wrong guy holding the belt. When the guys who get the most over have short shelf lives, like Richards and Black, then you have to really capitalize at the right time to keep people interested. They failed miserably with Tyler and it looks like they're about to fail again with Davey.

Meanwhile, PWG just put their belt on Claudio. In all fairness, the PWG belt doesn't really mean all that much, but Claudio is a guy whose game has just taken a massive step up recently. He is hotter than most people on the indies, and PWG recognizes that and they're giving him the belt because people want to see Claudio in main event matches. Plus now there is a ready-made feud with the other hottest guy on the indies, Chris Hero, over the belt just waiting to happen. That's why PWG is the best wrestling company in the world, because they put wrestlers people want to see against other wrestlers people want to see in the type of matches people want to see them in. In other words, they know what the fanbase wants, and they don't hesitate to give it to them.
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Old 11-16-2010, 10:08 AM   #6074 (permalink)
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Meanwhile, PWG just put their belt on Claudio. In all fairness, the PWG belt doesn't really mean all that much, but Claudio is a guy whose game has just taken a massive step up recently. He is hotter than most people on the indies, and PWG recognizes that and they're giving him the belt because people want to see Claudio in main event matches. Plus now there is a ready-made feud with the other hottest guy on the indies, Chris Hero, over the belt just waiting to happen. That's why PWG is the best wrestling company in the world, because they put wrestlers people want to see against other wrestlers people want to see in the type of matches people want to see them in. In other words, they know what the fanbase wants, and they don't hesitate to give it to them.
PWG is just a super card company. They're hella fun to watch, but they give intelligent people the idea that they never think things through, but unlike Russo they actually allow people to have great matches. New Japan is on another level and smokes PWG. I would say they are the best wrestling company in the world. PWG gives the belt to people ROH doesn't, and they pay when those people NEVER defend the Championship, which makes it worthless.
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PWG is just a super card company. They're hella fun to watch, but they give intelligent people the idea that they never think things through, but unlike Russo they actually allow people to have great matches. New Japan is on another level and smokes PWG. I would say they are the best wrestling company in the world. PWG gives the belt to people ROH doesn't, and they pay when those people NEVER defend the Championship, which makes it worthless.
But it's not like ROH hasn't had problems with title defenses with Strong, Edwards and Davey going back and forth to Japan, and if they put the title on Davey at Final Battle (which will give Strong a totally weak ass title reign) then ROH may have to deal with the same issues that PWG had to.

Of course if ROH was really going to put the title on the hot guy right now a fat sweaty Canadian would be champ.
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I still watch him, still don't care and still feel most of his matches feel like the same match over and over.
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I like Callihan as an undercard guy but I really don't think I would want to see him in a bigger role than that. And what's with finding people that like CZW and JAPW on this fourm?



PWG Seven Review (now with more inflated Ratings!)

Six Person Tag Match:

Peter Avalon, Malachi Jackson, and Ryan Taylor vs. Brandon Gatson, Johhny Goodtime, and Cadice LeRae

For all the booking flaws that PWG has they do know how to book openers. I laughed, I marked at big spots, and I sat there waiting for Peter Avalon to get his ass kicked (it was awesome when he did btw). Maybe it was lacking things like "psychology" or some type of "story" other than Avalon wanting to fuck everything that moved but it was, without doubt, awesome. This was just one of those matches that had me thinking, "I love wrestling" and had me wishing that I could go to California to see one of these shows.

Draw dropping spots and a lot of laughs. Ballplexes were attempted, women were kicked in the head, I think there were men kissing, and Johnny Goodtime almost died. All is well in PWG. And no, I don't care that my rating is insanley high for this match.
***1/2


Brian Cage vs. Brandon Bonham


Let's just sum the beginning up real quick. Shit got real serious real fast. So serious that Excalibur was forced to utter the line, "Nobody's cervix will be left in tact after this." That's pretty serious.

Obviously this was really hard hitting and while much more serious than the last match it captured the general awesomeness that the first match had. From the little I've seen of Bonham this is his best match hands down. Cage really impressed me as well. It was his first PWG match so I had never seen him wrestle before. He's good, very good, and someone that we should all keep on eye. Anyway PWG keeps the show going with another great match, and this was one that I didn't have high hopes for at all.
***1/2


Akira Tozawa vs. Chris Sabin

Oh it's the third match of the card, good spot for a filler. Except this is PWG so they put one of Dragon Gate's fastest rising stars in with one half of TNA's best tag team.

To the surprise of nobody this was a very good match. I twas nice to see some mat wrestling for a little bit early on. Seeing the extent of Tozawa's insanity was also a lot of fun. Not quite on the level as the last 2 matches but a very good midcard match.
***


Scott Lost's Retirement Match:
Scott Lost vs. Scorpio Sky

I can't think of a better way to go out than this. Lost got to wrestle in front of a crowd that loved him and went against one of his friends. And he had an awesome match. It did have some hints of "The Best of Scott Lost" but Scorpio Sky managed to pick up the intensity and it sucked me into the match. I'm not quite sure what Scorpio has been doing for the last few years but he can still wrestle.

I wanted nothing more than to see Scott Lost pick up the win and I was a little shocked at how this ended. A classy move by Lost I know but it was still pretty shocking for me since Scorpio isn't even on the PWG roster. Another great match here and I can't think of a better farewell match. The speech after the match was very well done and Lost looked really likable even though he admitted that he didn't want to wrestle anymore at the age of 30.
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Bryan Danielson vs. Roderick Strong


So after seeing Lost leave PWG we get to see Danielson make his return. I've seen him wrestle Strong a bunch of times before and this was probably on the lower end of the list, mostly because of how short it was. I can't really pinpoint what I didn't like about it and now that some time has passed since watching it I honestly don't remember much of it. They did nothing wrong but the match just sort of happened.
***1/4


PWG World Championship Match:
Davey Richards (c) vs. Chris Hero

If you don't like Davey Richards I think it's safe to say that this match will do a great job of pissing you off. And if you are one of those people you will have someone managed to not enjoy one of the best matches of this year. Near the end of the match I'm fairly certain they forgot they were in PWG in 2010 and thought they were main eventing in Japan a few years back. Davey Richards looked downright amazing in this match. It would have been perfect booking if they would have gone on to establish Davey as a dominant champion. He took everything that Hero had and just kept fighting.

I liked how Davey kept going back to his leg submissions. He had been working the knee and legs of Hero all throughout the match and it was good to see that he tried to get the win with either the Clover Leaf or the Ankle Lock. Good selling from Hero throughout the match as well. These guys might be the 2 best on the indies right now so I can't say I'm shocked that they delivered a MOTYC.
****1/2


Guerrilla Warfare Match for the PWG Tag Team Championship
The Cutler Bros. vs. The Young Bucks vs. Peligro Abejas (c)

All this was missing from being perfect was for Excalibur to mention the word "Plunder." The match was insane in every form. I think I'll just say that they beat the shit out of each other and did a bunch of crazy shit.
****1/4


This is the perfect show. Every match was good and they provided a great mix. Just look at the last 2 matches. Both were amazing but were nothing alike. PWG seems to have reverted back to a year or so ago when they were incapable of having anything but great shows.
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Shingo vs. Bryan Danielson ****3/4

There is a ton of great shit that I must catch up on this year, but I will be very, very, very pleasantly surprised if a match can top this one. The atmosphere in the ECW Arena felt like a WM main event, and the very subtle storytelling from the early stages of the match that paid off in the end felt so rewarding. I would not be surprised if I gave this the full ***** for future viewings.
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Shingo vs. Bryan Danielson ****3/4

There is a ton of great shit that I must catch up on this year, but I will be very, very, very pleasantly surprised if a match can top this one. The atmosphere in the ECW Arena felt like a WM main event, and the very subtle storytelling from the early stages of the match that paid off in the end felt so rewarding. I would not be surprised if I gave this the full ***** for future viewings.
Please tell me they got the confetti gun after the match onto the DVD.

And that was the only time I've ever been in the ECW Arena where I can say that it felt the way you would expect the Arena to feel. I'm ****3/4-***** on it myself. I need to see it on DVD though.
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