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Old 05-25-2010, 03:32 PM   #4181 (permalink)
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Since when does a good match need a clean finish? They help but ROH still lets their guys go out there and have great matches. They might just want to take the booking along a route that actually allows for them to have some storylines. It might actually help heels get over because guys like the KOW and Austin Aries still get cheered when they are booked as heels.
That's my point though.......who cares? Who cares who is getting cheered if the matches are good? My your argument, heels should intentionally put on bad matches to get heat. I've heard this opinion over and over and it makes no sense at all to me.

Who cares who is getting more cheers if the matches are good? Why is getting a heel booed more important than actually putting on good matches? I don't love all the booking in Japan right now, but at least that is one thing they always seem to protect; no matter who the bigger favorite is with the crowd, they don't mess with the matches in terms of giving the wrestlers the chance to put something special together. (Except the big NOAH fiasco two months ago)

Good matches don't necessarily need good finishes...but they ALWAYS benefit from good finishes. That is to say: A good match with a crappy finish may still be good, but there's no way the quality of the match would have been WORSE with a clean finish. We often wish a match had been left to be clean, but no one EVER wishes a match would end with a run-in. How can you say ROh is lettign their guys have good matches when the overbooking is ruining the most important part: the finish? Aries/Black/Roderick, KOW/MCMG, Any Aries/Black match, The Wolves/Briscoes match from last year, and any of several others would have been so much better had they not screwed up the finish.

That, to me, is the biggest difference between what ROH used to be and what it has become. The storylines were always important, but never more important than putting on the undisputed best matches with finishes that didn't make you feel like you wasted your time getting invested. Match quality and decent finishes were always more important than the storyline. Now, that doesn't seem to be the case. Put these latest shows against the last Dayton show, which got all the storylines across without one single screwy finish. The storylines got over, and were advanced, the match quality wasn't compromised one bit. That proves that this CAN BE DONE. Just have the angles be post match, and put people over clean for once. Why is this treated like some big impossible task? Why is it ok that storylines are seen as more important than match quality?
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Old 05-25-2010, 03:50 PM   #4182 (permalink)
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I saw that. No offense but you had to know that wasn't going to go over well.

Still, if that fat, racist idiot from Kentucky was allowed back after making 9/11 comments, then you should be too.
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Old 05-25-2010, 05:42 PM   #4183 (permalink)
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I saw that. No offense but you had to know that wasn't going to go over well.

Still, if that fat, racist idiot from Kentucky was allowed back after making 9/11 comments, then you should be too.
Oh, the fat racist idiot from Kentucky. What a fat racist idiot.

Honestly, I really want to be excited for ROH shows. I really do. But I just can't seem to.

And regarding their ridiculous message board censorship, does anyone else see any parallels between ROH and Animal Farm? Like, lots of blatantly obvious parallels?
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Old 05-25-2010, 08:04 PM   #4184 (permalink)
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And regarding their ridiculous message board censorship, does anyone else see any parallels between ROH and Animal Farm? Like, lots of blatantly obvious parallels?
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MP’s Indy DVD Bonanza 2010: Chikara--A World of Comforting Illusions

Interesting looking venue here in Pottsville. There's some guitars on the wall and a giant mural of Mick & Keith, Kiss, Madonna, and some other people I can't see.

Colin Delaney is on commentary all night, and Mantis is not. I’m pissed already.

The Unstable vs. The Throwbacks: **
-Nothing match. Am I the only Chikara fan that doesn’t particularly care for the Throwbacks?

Green Ant vs. Brodie Lee: **
-David vs. Insane Goliath. This was a lot of fun. Still not much of a match, but I enjoyed it.

Incoherence vs. Sara Del Rey & Daizee Haze: **3/4
-The effort was there, but this was just about average. The BDK ladies continue to look credible in there with the men.

Claudio & Ares vs. Osirian Portal vs. Super Smash Bros. vs. Badd Boyz: ***
-Fun match that wasn’t as good as I expected. Most will love the dance-off towards the beginning, but I thought it felt forced. The BDK did look awesome, waiting for the perfect moment and then splattering bitches.

Eddie Kingston vs. Gran Akuma: **1/2
-It’s exactly what you expect. They stiffed each other, did some no-selling, and then dropped each other on their heads. None of which are deal-breakers, but they aren’t virtues either. Disappointing match.

Quackenbush & Future Is Now vs. BDK: ***1/4
-Fun match that made sense. Tursas looked waaaaaaay better in this environment than the one-on-one match from the night before.

The Colony vs. The Neo Solar Temple: ***
-Good title match. Ending was story, but I liked it. I’m curious to see what happens with Delirious after this.

Final Thoughts: I can’t recommend this show unless you have to see all of them. It took me forever to get through. There are some good matches and moments on here, but you could miss this show entirely and not skip a beat.

Next Up: Evolve 2--Hero vs. Hidaka
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Pro Wrestling Guerrilla As The Worm Turns 2010 - Chris Hero vs Alex Shelley ***3/4 - ****
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Good footage. Any idea when the show will be hitting the shelves?
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I'd say the Friday before Death Before Dishonor.
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Cleveland's own Johnny Gargano (from EVOLVE, AIW, etc) was one of Cole's bodyguards on NXT. Just thought I'd point it out.
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