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post #3741 of 6325 (permalink) Old 04-18-2010, 10:40 PM
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Re: Official Indy DVD Thread

I've always thought Rey was a great performer and despite the fact he's not what he once was I think he does his shit really well. And I really like Cena for what he is, probably the best Big Match worker on the planet right now.

Lets sum it up. Never liked CHIKARA and its well known around here that I think its retarded, tried to give it a shot a few years ago (twice!) and it was pretty awful IMO. Been getting sour on ROH since late '07 really and I don't feel any need to follow it anymore, FIP is gone, CZW is trash as was IWA: MS towards the end (okay fine since 2005 on), don't see enough wXw and the whole indy way of working matches to me as I explained earlier doesn't interest me anymore. Japan is hurting because they can't make new stars (especially NOAH). TNA being TNA is pretty much self explanatory and current cookie-cutter WWE Style is so boring to me.

So yeah pretty much all i'm digging these days is MMA, PWG and pretty much anything pre-1996 I can find. If that makes me a "Smarky" smark because I find pretty much everything current awful or disinteresting than so be it.

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post #3742 of 6325 (permalink) Old 04-18-2010, 11:03 PM
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Well i'm pretty fed up with Wrestling in general right now, only thing I watched from last year (this is barring some of the excellent shit i've found from 80's Mid-South, Memphis etc) I felt any real interest in was PWG. But the whole indy way of working matches just seems really poor to me now, with the overly long matches, every match goes for the epic finishing sequences and the general "Can you top this shit" mentality that is prevailent in independant wrestling in the first place. Maybe its the fact i've been watching a lot of 80's stuff with DQ finishes, squashes and 5 minutes matches but i'll take that way of building up angles over attempting to put on an epic after epic.

Plus, most of the really good indy workers (Punk, Samoa Joe of old, Danielson, Nigel McWolfeness) who actually made you care have all moved on anyways, the big stars of the indy scene right now are Tyler Black, Aries and Davey Richards and frankly the only one of those three I find interesting is Aries because he offers more than your standard moves guy (especially as a heel). Davey is getting there though last I watched him.
Davey is the #1 offender of the crappy indie style you descrived one paragraph up.

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McQueen, Chikara of a few years ago is not Chikara of today. I watched KOT 08 and hated it, and then didn't watch them again until somebody made me. Turns out I like it more than I ever could have expected. The magical Chuck Taylor ray sucked me in I guess.

Where are you finding Mid-South and Memphis and that sort of stuff? I've looked for it with very little success.
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I'm pretty much with McQueen with what I like now. I'll take Lawler throwing a beautiful worked punch or Steamboat selling exhaustion over whatever "epics" are on the indy scene nowadays. Watched the first DG USA PPV and fucking hated it, especially the first match that had like 50 nearfalls. I think that's where I became apathetic to indy wrestling. Where I started to dread watching it. Not that DG USA was the first company to do this, but it all really unclicked for me on that show. I've really just come to the conclusion that whatever an indy company (including what I saw from PWG last year. Really wasn't a fan, tbh) puts out isn't for me. Might be a reason I haven't posted in this section in 6 months.

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Where are you finding Mid-South and Memphis and that sort of stuff? I've looked for it with very little success.
http://www.wrestlingforum.com/35402-bigcal.html

McQueen and I (and a few other people I know of) got the Mid South and Memphis sets from him. Won't find them any cheaper on the Internet.
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The first DGUSA PPV had a similar effect on me. I've found myself not wanting to watch new shows, whether it's ROH, Chikara, or whatever, and end up just watching them for the sake of completion.

Honestly, it's not that I can't get excited for wrestling any more, because I've been looking forward to Main Event Spectacles since I started my 2003 ROH project, and I'm in the middle of the Milestone Series and I can't wait to get back to my 2006 ROH project. But from 2010, so far I've seen Kurt Russellmania, A Touch of Class, and The Big Bang, and that's it.

I still follow just about every major indy there is, and check out live results whenever there are some, but when it comes time to actually watch the shows, I don't know why, but I just don't want to.
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I can still watch indy wrestling when it has someone who interests me or a story I can get into. A month or so ago I watched something like 10 matches from Danielson's title reign that I had never seen before (or had only seen once years ago when I first got into indy). Pretty much everyone of them was great and in the **** range bar the Jimmy Rave defense where Rave looked like fucking Misawa he kicked out so much and the Shelley match that went like 40 minutes. But now there's really no one that can hold my attention.

On the best in the world discussion, I really have no idea who I'd take. Danielson is usually my default, but almost every match he had in 2009 lacked something for me and he hasn't been able to really show that he can adapt to the WWE yet. Not saying that as a knock on him, just that it's hard to form an opinion when he's wrestling 2 minute matches every week. I'd probably take Cena just ahead of Orton as best right now, although when Taker is on it's hard to be better than him. Orton gave the best performance in a match last year, but Taker's Mania performance this year won't be topped for a while, imo.
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I STILL LIKE WRESTLING BUT ONLY THE WOMEN.

SHIMMER VOL 14
Amber O’Neal vs. Portuguese Princess Ariel *3/4
2 out of 3 Falls: Allison Danger vs. Cindy Rogers ***1/4
Daffney vs. Lexie Fyfe *3/4
Serena Deeb vs. Malia Hosaka **
Cheerleader Melissa vs. Rain ***
Daizee Haze vs. MsChif ***1/2
Amazing Kong vs. Nikki Roxx ***1/4
SHIMMER Title Match: Sara Del Rey vs. Lacey ***3/4

SHIMMER VOL 16
Amber O'Neal vs. Lorelei Lee *1/2
Portia Perez & Nicole Matthews vs. Portuguese Princess Ariel & Josie *3/4
Alexa Thatcher vs. Ashley Lane *1/2
Lexie Fyfe & Malia Hosaka vs. Allison Danger & Serena Deeb **
Daffney vs. Cindy Rogers **
Lacey, Rain, & Jetta vs. MsChif, Daizee Haze, & Eden Black ***
Cheerleader Melissa vs. Amazing Kong ***1/4
Two Out Of Three Falls: Sara Del Rey vs. Sara Stock ***1/2

SHIMMER VOL 17
Rain & Jetta vs. Jennifer Blake & Danyah *3/4
Nicole Matthews vs. Shark Girl **
Lexie Fyfe & Malia Hosaka vs. Ashely Lane & Nevaeh **1/4
Lorelei Lee vs. Amber O' Neal *3/4
Daizee Haze vs. Cindy Rogers ***
Amazing Kong vs. Portuguese Princess Ariel **3/4
Mercedes Martinez vs. Wesna Busic ***1/2
Lacey vs. Sarah Stock ***1/4
Sara Del Rey & Allison Danger vs. MsChif & Cheerleader Melissa ****

SHIMMER VOL 18
Amber O' Neal vs. Shark Girl *1/4
Nicole Matthews vs. Lorelei Lee **
Daizee Haze vs. Jetta **1/4
Lexie Fyfe & Malia Hosaka vs. Jennifer Blake & Danyah *1/2
Portuguese Princess Ariel vs. Cat Power *3/4
Mercedes Martinez vs. Cindy Rogers **3/4
Lacey & Rain vs. Ashely Lane & Nevaeh *3/4
Amazing Kong vs. Wesna Busic ***3/4
Cheerleader Melissa vs. Sarah Stock ***1/2
Sara Del Rey vs. MsChif ***1/4 (Could have used more nearfalls)

SHIMMER VOL 23
Nikki Roxx vs. Cat Power ***
Tenille vs. Amber O'Neal *3/4
Melanie Cruise vs. Daffney *3/4
Sara Del Rey vs. Madison Eagles ***3/4
Kellie Skater vs. LuFisto *1/2
Daizee Haze vs. Nicole Matthews ***1/4
Amazing Kong vs. Mercedes Martinez ***3/4
2/3 fals match: Ashley Lane & Nevaeh vs. Rain & Jetta * (So stupid)
Cheerleader Melissa vs. Wesna Busic ***3/4
MsChif vs. Serena Deeb ***1/4

SHIMMER VOL 26
Jetta vs. Daffney **
Daizee Haze vs. Rayna Von Tash *1/2
Jennifer Blake vs. Melanie Cruise vs. Jessie McKay vs. Kellie Skater *1/2
Nikki Roxx & Portuguese Princess Ariel vs. Lexie Fyfe & Malia Hosaka **1/4
Rain vs. Tenille **1/2
Sara Del Rey & Amazing King vs. Serena Deeb & Mercedez Martinez ***3/4
Knockout or Submissions Match: Wesna Busic vs. Cheerleader Melissa ****1/2 (SO good!!)
SHIMMER Tag Team Title Match: Ashley Lane & Nevaeh vs. The Canadian Ninjas **
SHIMMER Title Match: MsChif vs. LuFisto ***1/2 (The 2nd best MsChif title defense)

SHIMMER VOL 28
Portuguese Princess Ariel vs. Malia Hosaka **3/4 (Funny match)
Kimberly Kash vs. Melanie Cruise *1/2 (Squash)
Ashley Lane & Nevaeh vs. Kacey Diamond & Sassy Stephie *3/4
Nikki Roxx vs. Wesna Busic ***1/4
Jessie McKay & Tenille vs. Rain & Jetta **3/4
Cheerleader Melissa vs. Kellie Skater **3/4 (Very violent squash)
Mercedez Martinez vs. Cat Power ***
Allison Danger vs. Nicole Matthews ***
Ayako Hamada vs. Sara Del Rey ****3/4 (Best SHIMMER Match I have seen)
SHIMMER Title Match: MsChif vs. Amazing Kong vs. LuFisto **** (The best Mschif title match)

SHIMMER ROCKS!!

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Where are you finding Mid-South and Memphis and that sort of stuff? I've looked for it with very little success.
since i can't buy the comps, i was able to find most of the stuff in xwt-classics (altough some might not have any seeds left), you can find some matches in Seabs megapost too.

i fucking loved Mid South and Memphis wrestling but still manage to enjoy indy stuff, though not as much as before.

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ROH Eye Of The Storm 2

Pick 6 Series
Kenny Omega vs. Rhett Titus **½

Erick Stevens and Bison Smith vs. Kevin Steen and El Generico **

Pick 6 Series

Colt Cabana vs. Chris Hero ***

Austin Aries and Kenny King vs. The Young Bucks ***¼

Pick 6 Series

Roderick Strong vs. Tyler Black ***¾
By the end of the match, the constant chanting for snapmares and fallaway slams was really pissing me off

Rocky Romero and The Briscoes vs. Alex Koslov and The American Wolves ***¾-****

Actually a pretty fun show despite the crowd being a bit of a nuisance at times

ROH Final Battle 2009

Four Corner Survival
Claudio Castagnoli vs. Rhett Titus vs. Kenny Omega vs. Colt Cabana **¾

Erick Stevens and Bison Smith vs. Delirious and Bobby Dempsey *

Fight Without Honor
Eddie Kingston vs. Chris Hero ****¼

The Young Bucks vs. Kevin Steen and El Generico ****¼

Pick 6 Series
Roderick Strong vs. Kenny King

Alex Koslov vs. Rocky Romero ***

ROH World Tag Team Title Match
The American Wolves vs. Jay and Mark Briscoe ***¼

ROH World Title Match

Austin Aries vs. Tyler Black ***¼
Wow....I didn't think I'd actually hate the NYC crowd more this time around but hey, I did

It certainly isn't the worst Final Battle of all time but it doesn't touch 05, 06, 07 or 08. Great first half with a weird second half

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Roderick Strong vs. Kenny King *¼
I didn't like this at all either. I was there live and just remember sitting there waiting for the match to pick up or get interesting. It never did. It really sort of just happened.
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