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Old 04-18-2010, 06:07 PM   #3731 (permalink)
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Are there any other legitimate sites that sell CHIKARA DVDs besides SMV? I've been wanting to buy Hiding in Plain Sight for months, but I'm not willing to pay $26 for two DVD-Rs, and there's not too much else on there that I'd be interested in buying during one of their sales. I saw a copy in perfect condition on eBay Friday for $14 shipped, but when I went to buy it earlier today someone had beaten me to it.
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Old 04-18-2010, 06:14 PM   #3732 (permalink)
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BTW, Maxx, did you see Sawa vs. TJP from Evolve 1? Best indy match in a long time.
It was ok. Not that good for a Sawa match being that I am the biggest Sawa (and shoot style fan I would assume) on WF. My biggest complaints for him were exemplified in the match. TJP did fantastic though, big improvement over the Puma days. I had it around ***.

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The thing that attracts me to Super Dragon is the aura he was able to create around himself. It's kind of a combination of that cool factor and the belief that this guy is actually a bad ass. For a wrestling purist (by all means I do not mean that as an insult to you or anybody) you probably wont get into his wild brawls, his sweet move set (curb stomp ), and his persona. Someone like me loves the fact that Super Dragon is the one man Wu-Tang Clan and would rather watch a 15 minute brawl with him than most other indy matches. Like many other things, he is not for everyone. Different Funk for different monks.
I would agree with most of this. He did a fantastic job with the aura aspect of the character, and he is one of my favorite brawlers, but like you say different opinions for different people. I don't want to see a brawl...why? Most US indy brawls are the same thing, every time. Same spots and what not. While watching someone stiff a guy and curbstomp someone is fun every once and awhile (Super Dragon/Samoa Joe All Nude Revue) but outside of some BJW brawls really do nothing for me, cause I have seen it already.
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Well i'm pretty fed up with Wrestling in general right now, only thing I watched from last year (this is barring some of the excellent shit i've found from 80's Mid-South, Memphis etc) I felt any real interest in was PWG. But the whole indy way of working matches just seems really poor to me now, with the overly long matches, every match goes for the epic finishing sequences and the general "Can you top this shit" mentality that is prevailent in independant wrestling in the first place. Maybe its the fact i've been watching a lot of 80's stuff with DQ finishes, squashes and 5 minutes matches but i'll take that way of building up angles over attempting to put on an epic after epic.

Plus, most of the really good indy workers (Punk, Samoa Joe of old, Danielson, Nigel McWolfeness) who actually made you care have all moved on anyways, the big stars of the indy scene right now are Tyler Black, Aries and Davey Richards and frankly the only one of those three I find interesting is Aries because he offers more than your standard moves guy (especially as a heel). Davey is getting there though last I watched him.
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Davey may be labelled "Best in the World" but I think Chris Hero is more suited to take that title personally.
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Old 04-18-2010, 06:33 PM   #3735 (permalink)
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Hero's not a focused enough to be the best at anything.
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Hero's not a focused enough to be the best at anything.
But when he does focus he can be classic. I wish he would stick to his old European fusion style, as that was not being provided anywhere else on the indy scene.

Who would you say is 'Best in the World' right now McQueen?
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Well i've not really kept up with stuff since last year but as of right now/this last year probably Rey Mysterio.

And I agree, Hero could be really great but he does a bunch of stuff in his matches I find pretty unnessessary and some of his more "innovative" offense just needs to go because it looks awful. I like Young KO Kid style Hero but I think it gets annoying when he throws a million rolling elbows, boots and sentons in a 30 minute match. Makes his big moves look weak, he'd be better off in the WWE doing 10 minute matches with that style IMO.
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I agree about Super Dragon. Not really a fan of his work, at all.

McQueen, as far as being "done with indy wrestling", why? Okay, so it's not as good as it once was, but why stop watching it? There's plenty of talent out there that's worth watching. Your constant negativity really annoys me sometimes bro.
No, dude. It's the new type of "smark" The smark is so smarky, that he now pretty much loaths all wrestling and always get on somebodies case for enjoying a match or a show.
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Well i've not really kept up with stuff since last year but as of right now/this last year probably Rey Mysterio.
Really? What is your appeal to him. I would have never expected him as your answer.

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No, dude. It's the new type of "smark" The smark is so smarky, that he now pretty much loaths all wrestling and always get on somebodies case for enjoying a match or a show.
Saying that McQueen is a 'new smark' is like saying that those that participated in the American Civil Rights Movement were 'new slaves'. We are standing against the smarks, are criticism is on why they are accepting the generic crap that is being given to us.
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Last I checked, PWG and Chikara are at their absolute peaks, DGUSA and EVOLVE are brand new companies offering a premium product every time out, and ROH, while not the best it's ever been, is definitely experiencing a resurgence after a transitional period in 2009.

Maybe YOU guys are just tired of indy wrestling, but don't pretend like it has nothing to offer right now because in my opinion the scene has never been stronger.
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