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No offense but why anyone would want a best of Super Dragon DVD is beyond me. Once you get past the fact he works stiff and slaps people around he is pretty mediocre in my eyes.

40% Sale, hmm. Could fill a few holes in my collection despite the fact i'm likely done with indy wrestling save maybe PWG and maybe wXw.

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^ You've got a point, what's next the best of Jack Evans?!
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I agree about Super Dragon. Not really a fan of his work, at all.

McQueen, as far as being "done with indy wrestling", why? Okay, so it's not as good as it once was, but why stop watching it? There's plenty of talent out there that's worth watching. Your constant negativity really annoys me sometimes bro.
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I'm not saying that Super Dragon is an amazing wrestler or anything but I like his work. When he was wrestling every PWG show I always felt that he would be one of the guys that I knew would be in a good match. I've only seen him in PWG (and one match that he wrestled in ROH) and I think he has enough quality matches for a Best of DVD to be pretty good.

Indy wrestling is a lot of fun for me. At this point I prefer the current indy stuff over what WWE and TNA is putting out.
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One best of maybe (hell, they gave fucking JC Bailey and Nate Webb best ofs) but four for Super Dragon? And it seemed like when he wasn't in PWG or working with someone whom he had great chemistry with he sucked.



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McQueen, as far as being "done with indy wrestling", why? Okay, so it's not as good as it once was, but why stop watching it? There's plenty of talent out there that's worth watching. Your constant negativity really annoys me sometimes bro.
Now I am not McQueen, but as his MN homeboy and fellow crab apple I must say that I am essentially done with indy too.

The thing is that every match is the same. The spots have all been done. Every once and a while there is a good promo or story or match that is worth watching, but mostly, pro wrestling today is crap. Do you want to know why. Fans who don't demand better. I have watched wrestling fans expectations drop drastically over the last few years. I have seen them accept the crap that has been put on. Frankly look at the old stuff, you had stories, pizazz, flash, flare, and matches that conveyed emotion and were actually watchable. I honestly don't remember the last ROH match I watched that I could finish. I know it has been a long long time. I like the DG style, but even that is all the same now and unwatchable.

Maybe we are at the turn of a generation, and the wrestling of today is here to stay, but I know McQueen and myself are not content to just let this happen. We, and any loyal fan who knows what they want and will not accept less, wills stand as the gate keeper, and we will demand the best, and hopefully we can change the trend, even if just a little bit.

And one day those of you who are too complacent to voice your opinion and question the crap that the machine is forcing into your mouth will thank us.

A wrestling match is like a balanced diet. The basics are carbs, keeping you going. Armdrags may not be the highlight, but they're key to the development. Dairy is emotion and crowd interaction, like bones, they strengthen the match, and in there absense, the it will fall apart. Meat is moves like suplexes and finishers. They’re cool, but if you rely on them you’d be unhealthy, and the matches unwatchable. Mat work is fruits and vegetables. We may not like them, but some is sweet chain wrestling. Last is spots and indy MoVEz~!, your sugars and fats. You can't just eat chocolate, and thus you need to do more than flips and head drops to get above ****.
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ROH Road to the Title

Biohazard vs. Bryan Danielson *1/4

A nice little match here. Danielson made Biohazard look pretty good for a few minutes before things picked up and he took control of the match and Danielson quickly won with the Cattle Mutilation.

Paul London vs. Spanky ***1/4

Really fast paced and just a blast to watch. Spanky dropping London on his head twice was some brutal stuff. Really good match.


Jay Briscoe vs. Doug Williams **1/2

Solid match here. Nothing mid blowing but some good fast paced stuff.


Johnny Storm vs. Jody Fleisch **

SPOTZ! Could have been much better if it hadn't been so sloppy as both guys did some awesome stuff in the ring.


Low-Ki vs. Prince Nana *

Nana took control early on before Low-Ki got some offense and KOed him. Short but to the point. Nana's offense was a little too repititive for me.


Xavier vs. The Amazing Red **1/4

Really short but I liked how they worked it. Red would fly around the ring and go for some crazy spots and Xavier would counter with some power move that looked like it should have killed Red.


Christopher Daniels vs. Scoot Andrews *1/4

Some cool moves done but nothing more than that in another short match.


AJ Styles vs. Jerry Lynn ***1/2

Fianlly a match that got some time to develop. Amazing stuff in the ring but I never felt they got into tht overkill zone that a lot of the other matches did. Best match of the opening round of the tournament.


Spanky vs. Jody Fleisch *1/2

Jody Fleisch hits a moonsault onto the guard rail and breaks it with his leg. It was a botch but it looked prety good. Than Jody doesn't even sell the leg until after the match. Spanky didn't work the leg at all but Jody was fine until he was hit by Sliced Bread #2 and lost, than he sold.


Bryan Danielson vs. Doug Williams ***1/2

Very refreshing to see a more mat based match and one that you couldn't call a spotfest by any means.


The Amazing Red vs. Low-Ki ****

Insane is the only word I can use to describe this one. The opening sequence was one of the coolest things that I've seen in a wrestling ring.


Christopher Daniels vs. AJ Styles ****

Another great match on the card. It's funny when AJ Styles is one of the guys on the card that slows things down. I've seen these guys wrestle each other so many times before and they always manage to put on a great match (Jason Takes PWG might be the only excpetion...)


Overall a pretty kickass show. It was just over 2 hours long and had 12 matches. Even the matches that got low ratings were enjoyable because they were kept short and were just a blast to watch.
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I agree to some extent with McQueen and Maxx Hero. But as watered down as it seems to have gotten, it's still the best thing going today.

BTW, Maxx, did you see Sawa vs. TJP from Evolve 1? Best indy match in a long time.
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I don't really buy to many wrestling DVDs. Sure I went through a period where I'd get a bunch of WWE best-of's at the local Best Buy, but even then they are all at my buddy's house. So other than the stuff he had online and the matches in the PWG Sells Out DVD, I don't have too many Super Dragon matches. So getting a single DVD compilation of his work over maybe several different events would be easier for me to do. Also , the Evolution series is pretty rare. I've been half-ass looking for any of them that I'd be able to get my hands on for a while now. So I guess finally getting this DVD is somewhat of a lame accomplishment for me.

The thing that attracts me to Super Dragon is the aura he was able to create around himself. It's kind of a combination of that cool factor and the belief that this guy is actually a bad ass. For a wrestling purist (by all means I do not mean that as an insult to you or anybody) you probably wont get into his wild brawls, his sweet move set (curb stomp ), and his persona. Someone like me loves the fact that Super Dragon is the one man Wu-Tang Clan and would rather watch a 15 minute brawl with him than most other indy matches. Like many other things, he is not for everyone. Different Funk for different monks.

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