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One is a rerelease of his old one with a couple of extra matches thrown in.
I saw that, but it's got 9 extra matches so I'm still sold.
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SMV has released TWO, YES TWO Quackenbush best ofs. Fuck, I hope they have a sale soon.
One is a rerelease of his old one with a couple of extra matches thrown in.

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I saw that, but it's got 9 extra matches so I'm still sold.
Didn't realise it was that many might just pick that up myself then when I get round to ordering the other one.
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ROH Double Feature II

The Hunt Begins

Tyler Black vs Jimmy Jacobs

Fuck was up with the crowd? I've heard more noise from an Empty Arena Match. Really hurt the match for me and I lost focus of it a lot of the time due to the lack of crowd input. The HATE that should have been in a Jacobs/Black match didn't seem to be there for me. Decent enough wrestling match but fuck the crowd was dead.

***

Austin Aries vs Roderick Strong vs Jay Briscoe vs Kenny Omega

Really enjoyed this match. Glad to see it be a no tags 4 way match rather than having tags which they've done in their recent multi person singles matches. The story with Omega being the new youngster in the ring with three experienced veterans of ROH was nicely done. The Aries promo before the match set the finish up brilliantly too. As you'd expect looking at the 4 men in the match the wrestling was crisp and entertaining.

Aries is always a pleasure to watch atm and I'm starting to enjoy Omega more and more in ROH now. Wasn't a fan of him when he first started working ROH. Thought his PWG and DDT stuff was much better but he's obviously much more suited to the comedy style of them promotions. I'm liking him more in a ROH ring as well now though. He still needs to stop doing that stupid stop sign bullshit but at least people are not falling for it all the time now. Smartly booked and a very good wrestling match.


***1/2

Claudio Castagnoli & Jimmy Rave vs. Colt Cabana & Brent Albright

Nana getting hit straight on the head with the toilet paper was hilarious. Another variation of Albright/Castagnoli is too much. Every show at this point. Embassy I just don't care for and I don't find Rave, Albright or Castagnoli entertaining one bit in the ring. Colt is quite the opposite however. Didn't care much for this.

**1/2

Kevin Steen, El Generico & Bryan Danielson vs American Wolves & Sylvain Grenier

What was the point in the whole Sylvain angle in the end really? All the french was annoying before the match. Sylvain looked totally out of his depth and didn't do anything impressive. May as well been a 3 on 2 tag. Crowd was a bit more lively for this one than anything before but still extremely quiet. Nothing much in terms of the match. Solid match but nothing much better.

***1/4

Tag Title Classic

Colt Cabana vs Claudio Castagnoli

Very fun match to watch and Colt was on top form. Claudio worked fairly well with him I thought and the comedy aspect of the match mixed in really nicely with the wrestling aspect.

***

Austin Aries, Kenny King & Rhett Titus vs Kevin Steen, Generico Dos & Kenny Omega

Great to see Aries work with King & Titus. Too much Dos in the ring for me. Aries was simply brilliant yet again and I absolutely adore his current gimmick. Couldn't understand why some people were hating on it when he first introduced it at the start of the year with his heel turn but he's turned any doubters around. Solid match but nothing great going on. King looked great as always.

***

Jimmy Jacobs vs Delirious - Markham Street Fight

Really enjoyed this brawl. Another good brawl with a former AOTF member to try and put the whole angle to bed bit by bit. Personally prefered the brawl with Necro at Take No Prisoners. Best Delirious match I've seen in a long time. Jacobs is one of the best hardcore brawlers around and fits around his sick character brilliantly. A couple of nice spots, particuarly the spear through the table. The mist at the finish looked fucking awesome.

***1/4

Roderick Strong vs Jay Briscoe

Brilliant wrestling match. Enjoyed this one a lot. No gimmick, no stories, just two great wrestlers going at it with each other to see who the better man is. I wish crazy Mark would leave Jay on his own so he can have an extended singles run and put on more matches like this. He'll never be a main eventer or putting on MOTYC's every show but he's great at this kind of match in the middle of the card with anyone. Strong is his usual awesome self and seriously deserves to be around the title picture more often. Lower end of the ***1/2 scale but a very enjoyable wrestling match.

***1/2

American Wolves vs Bryan Danielson & Tyler Black - ROH World Tag Team Championships

Holy shit, this is a match and a half. I absolutely loved this one and honestly couldn't pick any major faults with it. Super action throughout the entirety of the time limit and it never once felt like they were slowing the pace down so they could go the distance. What I loved was how often it felt like they could go straight into the finish at any point and when it got the last 60 seconds you were just thinking, it's over already? The time just flew in this one and you know it's a great match then. Danielson's leg selling as ever is a thing of beauty and constant for a good 20 minutes and even after the match. Tyler's table spot and especially Davey's dive into the 3rd row of the crowd were brilliant. The finish worked superbly as well imo. Black and Danielson locking in simultanious cattle muttilations and MMA elbows looked awesome.

Debated between ****3/4 and the full 5 but went the maximum in the end. I just couldn't pick any fault with it and it's such an easy match to watch for a lengthy amount of time. Loved every bit of it and deserving of the ***** rating it gets from anyone. Tag Title Classic.


*****

Overall:
The idea of putting the best of both shows was probably a good idea overall. Made for a solid DVD. Tag Title Classic probably would have been fine for DVD sales alone with the main event but the rest of the show was really good too. The Hunt Begins seemed like a shit show though tbh with an abismal crowd that sounded like they were at a funeral, not a ROH event. Lots of very good matches and a classic of a main event.
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Anyone else think it's kinda stupid that when ROH does the scroll on the bottom of the screen showing their upcoming dates that they're showing dates that already happened? What good would it do me if I'm watching a DVD and it shows me dates and it says a town near me, but then I see the date and it's already happened? How bout showing dates that will happen after the release of the DVD?
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The truly brilliant thing about the finish was that while Danielson was able to keep Cattle Mutilation locked on Richards for the entire time, with no problem, Black, who had never applied the hold before, had his hands keep coming unclasped and he eventually had to just say "fuck it" and hit God's Last Gift. Great, realistic, storytelling there as well.

The table spot was great as well because it came out of nowhere. Edwards just snuck up behind Black and kicked him off the rope, and he happened to go through the table. A far cry from the ECW tradition where you set up a table, go to the top rope, and jump through it for a cheap pop. Even if Tyler stopped selling it once he recovered, I can't remember off the top of my head a better use of a table in a wrestling match.

Honestly, I hesitated much less at giving this the full five than I did with Davey-KENTA.
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The truly brilliant thing about the finish was that while Danielson was able to keep Cattle Mutilation locked on Richards for the entire time, with no problem, Black, who had never applied the hold before, had his hands keep coming unclasped and he eventually had to just say "fuck it" and hit God's Last Gift. Great, realistic, storytelling there as well.

The table spot was great as well because it came out of nowhere. Edwards just snuck up behind Black and kicked him off the rope, and he happened to go through the table. A far cry from the ECW tradition where you set up a table, go to the top rope, and jump through it for a cheap pop. Even if Tyler stopped selling it once he recovered, I can't remember off the top of my head a better use of a table in a wrestling match.

Honestly, I hesitated much less at giving this the full five than I did with Davey-KENTA.
I agree on all 3 accounts, especially the table spot. I was totally caught off guard when he went through the table. It made me say "holy shit" or something along those lines. Loved that spot.

Speaking of which, I just finished watching every other match on the DVD and here are my ratings.


ROH Double Feature II

ROH The Hunt Begins (4/17/09)

Jimmy Jacobs vs. Tyler Black ***3/4

Jay Briscoe vs. Roderick Strong vs. Kenny Omega vs. Austin Aries ***1/4

Jimmy Rave & Claudio Castagnoli vs. Colt Cabana & Brent Albright **3/4

Davey Richards, Eddie Edwards & Sylvain Grenier vs. Kevin Steen, El Generico & Bryan Danielson ***1/4
I'd like to know who's idea it was for Grenier to not be involved in this match much. I mean, did everyone else say "Ya know, we don't think you're very good, so uhh we got this, don't worry about it." or did Grenier say "You guys are a lot better than I am, to be honest, I don't really need to be a big part of this match, do I?" Either way, I'm sure it was a good idea, because it was a pretty good match.

ROH Tag Title Classic (4/18/09)

Claudio Castagnoli vs. Colt Cabana **3/4

Austin Aries, Kenny King & Rhett Titus vs. Kevin Steen, Player Dos & Kenny Omega ***1/4

Markham Street Fight
Jimmy Jacobs vs. Delirious ***1/4

Jay Briscoe vs. Roderick Strong ***3/4

ROH World Tag Team Championship
Davey Richards & Eddie Edwards (c) vs. Bryan Danielson & Tyler Black *****
I might get some flack for giving this 5 stars, but I don't care. It also entertained me more than KENTA/Davey did and I gave that one 5 stars too. I never lost interest in this match at all. The pace was never too slow, never too fast. It was tag team wrestling at it's finest. Danielson is just brilliant when it comes to selling a leg. They were all noticeably worn out near the end of the match, and rightfully so. If you've got 45 minutes to kill sometime, you better watch this match. This is my Match of the Year. It'll be hard to top.

Pretty awesome DVD right here, definitely worth getting. Not a bad match throughout, plus you get to see a bonafide classic tag team contest. One shame about this DVD is that if someone new to ROH were to watch it, they wouldn't know who the World champion was at the time.

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I can't remember off the top of my head a better use of a table in a wrestling match.
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Anyone else think it's kinda stupid that when ROH does the scroll on the bottom of the screen showing their upcoming dates that they're showing dates that already happened? What good would it do me if I'm watching a DVD and it shows me dates and it says a town near me, but then I see the date and it's already happened? How bout showing dates that will happen after the release of the DVD?
Tremendous post, sir. ROH should really look in to fixing that.

I'll have a DFII review soon enough. Only watched the first three matches of The Hunt Begins.
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Slowly finishing off the most recent ROH stuff, just DFII to go before the wait for the latest two DVDs.

ROH Take No Prisoners PPV:

1. Ace Steel vs Colt Cabana - **

2. Chris Hero, Incognito & The American Wolves vs Magno, Jay Briscoe & Steenerico - ***

3. Jimmy Jacobs vs Necro Butcher (Fight Without Honor) - ***1/2

4. Blue Demon Jr. vs Claudio Castagnoli vs Brent Albright - **1/4

5. Alex Koslov vs Roderick Strong - ***

6. Erick Stevens vs D'Lo Brown vs Bryan Danielson vs Jerry Lynn (4 Corner Survival - ROH World Title Match) - ***1/4

7. Austin Aries & Katsuhiko Nakajima vs Tyler Black & KENTA - ****1/4

Average to solid undercard with an excellent brawl in the middle, but really this is all about the excellent ME. Hunt down the ME as it's a must-watch and then pick up the DVD in a sale down the line.
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The truly brilliant thing about the finish was that while Danielson was able to keep Cattle Mutilation locked on Richards for the entire time, with no problem, Black, who had never applied the hold before, had his hands keep coming unclasped and he eventually had to just say "fuck it" and hit God's Last Gift. Great, realistic, storytelling there as well.

The table spot was great as well because it came out of nowhere. Edwards just snuck up behind Black and kicked him off the rope, and he happened to go through the table. A far cry from the ECW tradition where you set up a table, go to the top rope, and jump through it for a cheap pop. Even if Tyler stopped selling it once he recovered, I can't remember off the top of my head a better use of a table in a wrestling match.

Honestly, I hesitated much less at giving this the full five than I did with Davey-KENTA.
Great post, although I considered Tyler's version of the Cattle Mutilation as a botch until I read this post. Table spot really came out of nowhere and shocked the hell outta me, Tyler sold it for ages, heck he wasn't in the match for about 10 minutes. They needed him back in to bring back the pace as by that point the Wolves were basically picking apart Danielson's knee. Such a great match, with mant different styles (high flying, traditional tag team action, brawling and etc.) which all came together in a masterpiece. All these 5 star ratings are tempting me big time, and to be honest, nothing really holds the match back from being the full 5.
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