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post #1091 of 6325 (permalink) Old 09-08-2009, 07:51 AM
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Punk & Joes departure was over a year apart, even if Joe's importance was downgraded with his signing with TNA he was still an important member of the roster (at least till the CZW war was over).

The fact that i've lost complete interest in ROH aside from the prospect of a good match from about 5 guys in the company (2 of which are the aforemensioned guys leaving for WWE) and that fact I am not alone in this thinking makes me think ROH's glory days are now long past. Maybe they will rebound (even though there are rumored money issues which if true is whats really going to kill the company) and maybe they won't.


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Lets face it Nigel and Danielson have hardly done anything this year anyway. Danielson has been a massive waste of talent. I can understand Pearce not wanting to put him any long term plans cause he always looked like leaving for somewhere at some point this year but Dragon isn't a guy who needs a great feud to excel and put on great matches. Just give him 15/20 minutes with someone who has talent in the ring each show instead of random 4 ways which are always shit. Have a few more singles with Stevens seeing as he beat him twice last year, a match with Cabana, anything. He hasn't done anything outside of his never ending matches with Black.

Nigel I know had his epic title reign and then had to take time off but who's cared since he dropped the title. He never took the proper time off and seemed to keep showing up randomly with no purpose on HDNet.

I'm not saying they'll be able to cope without them because quite frankly they havent been doing great this year full stop. The tag division is finally looking again now they've brought in Bucks and Briscoes are back together but WTF has Aries done with his title reign. Omega and Petey fucking Williams? Tyler Black has become a mindfuck nobody cares for anymore. Strong and Hero just always seem to be there. Stevens may as well not be there and the whole shit with Embassy is worthless shit.

Honestly the best thing they could do imo is work more with PWG and maybe work up an interpromotional feud to make ROH half interesting again.

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Yeah, from what I remember, there's only been one ROH Danielson match that hasn't been against Tyler Black so far this year or have Tyler Black's involvement in some way. That was his match against El Generico at Proving Ground. Other than that, every single match has involved Tyler Black in some way, atleast it damn seems that way. It's absolutely ridiculous. Tyler Black has lost his momentum that he once had and his title win has been so over due, that yeah, people don't give a fuck anymore. It's pretty much the same thing with Samoa Joe last year. He won the belt a long time after he should have so people were like, meh shoulda happened a long time ago.

I absolutely hate Pearce's booking. He's wasted Danielson this year, he doesn't know what he's doing with Tyler Black and he really just doesn't seem to know how to use Hero or Strong.

I've lost alot of interest in ROH as well. An interpromotional feud between PWG & ROH really would bring some interest back but that probably won't ever happen sadly.


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30 matches this year 7 of which included Black considering the size of the roster that's a big % involving the same person.


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WTF @ KingTaker...

ROH will have to create and find new stars. Simple. Thankfully, there are no shortages of good wrestlers on the block nowadays.

Kendrick and London should be signed to ROH. Those two would bring in a heap of star power.
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I think he meant the majority of his good matches have all been with Black. WTF did they ever do with the end of Black/Nigel with the timekeeper calling early? Fuck was the point in that.

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I think he meant the majority of his good matches have all been with Black. WTF did they ever do with the end of Black/Nigel with the timekeeper calling early? Fuck was the point in that.
Yeah I wonder about that too. Pretty dumb. I thought that was supposed to lead to something... Why else would they do it?
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ROH - Validation

Super Smash Brothers vs Brent Albright & Erick Stevens - **3/4

Chris Hero vs Sonjay Dutt - ***1/4

Jimmy Rave & Claudio Castagnoli vs Necro Butcher & Delirious - **1/4


Joey Ryan vs Colt Cabana - ***


ROH World Tag Team Championship
American Wolves vs Bryan Danielson & Kevin Steen


Great match, almost like a mini version of the Tag Title Classic. It had Dragon's partner going through a table and Dragon fending for himself while getting his knee attacked, as the main reasons for being similar but this was just such great fun to watch. Dragon and Edwards really shined in this one. Dragon, who was selling the attacks on his knee very well as usual. Edwards, who got put over big time by making the top man in the company tap and stepping out of Davey's shadow and becoming his own. Edwards is really being given great opportunities to showcase himself now. My favourite part was at the end, when Davey sacrificed himself with a dive to the outside to take out Steen, leaving Eddie by himself. Eddie is looking around with a "Where's my partner?" kinda expression and Nigel on commentary is yelling "Make a name for yourself, Eddie! Make that clamdigger tap!". It felt like such an important moment and Eddie looked like a star. God forbid the Wolves should disband because of Davey getting pushed, but I think Eddie is going to be just fine. The only big flaw in this was the crowd being quiet in certain parts, they were pretty much only lively for the spots, but it wasn't too bad. Best match of the night, and I don't think the main event will do any better.

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ROH World Championship
Jerry Lynn vs Jay Briscoe


Similar to how the previous weekend went, which had one great match (Roderick) and one lesser match (Cabana), this weekend's great match was with Hero, but this one with Jay was the much lesser one. Didn't find it very interesting at all and there wasn't much of a story to go with it. Very little hints of psychology or a formula to the match, it was just sequences, moves and resting before they got to the finishing moves. Lynn did a Cradle Piledriver pretty much out of nowhere, which got zero reaction was too early for anyone to believe was the finish. Same thing happened with the Jay-Driller, but that got a reaction. Then not long afterwards it was a Tombstone Cradle Piledriver for the win. It was as if they realised the match wasn't that interesting and just decided to hit some big moves to make things better. Match was ok, but a really weak main event. I'd say Lynn's reign has been hit or miss so far.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpHUYKdR2jU&feature=sub

ROH Video Wire 9/9/09 is up and LOL at Nigel a 02:00 - 02:05


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