[KingCrash]

Originally Posted by Devildude

Pretty ironic that you reviewed TPI '08 today KC, what with Ian announcing that IWA-MS is finally closing down and everything.

And the sad thing was is if he could have actually gotten everyone he promised (unlikely as that was) it would have been at least a good event, even with Ian's booking and numerous promos. I guess Ol' Pedo's money didn't go as far as he thought. Or Ian scammed him too.

[Seabs]

ROH Never Say Die

Delirious vs. Ricky Reyes
**1/4

Kenny King and Rhett Titus vs. The Super Smash Brothers
**

Jay Briscoe vs. Necro Butcher
*

Davey Richards vs. Kevin Steen - Anything Goes Match
***1/2
Wasn't feeling this as much as others. Spots were good but it seemed to be spot and then set another up, spot and so on.

Bryan Danielson vs. Sonjay Dutt vs. Eddie Edwards
***

Colt Cabana, Erick Stevens and Brent Albright vs. Jimmy Rave, Claudio Castagnoli and Joey Ryan
**

Jerry Lynn vs. Chris Hero - ROH World Championship
***3/4+
Loved this

Overall:
Decent show but nothing more. Hero/Lynn was really good and Hero's promo on the show is amazing.

[erikstans07]

Does anyone ever notice that sometimes we rate some matches lower, because they happen in the indy's? I've been thinking about it and sometimes, when we rate indy matches, we are little more critical of the matches. I say this because we give matches like Danielson/Dutt/Edwards ***, but I feel that if we saw the same exact match happen in WWE or TNA, we might give it like ***1/2 or ***3.4.

Just thinking out loud lol

[Bubz]

Does anyone ever notice that sometimes we rate some matches lower, because they happen in the indy's? I've been thinking about it and sometimes, when we rate indy matches, we are little more critical of the matches. I say this because we give matches like Danielson/Dutt/Edwards ***, but I feel that if we saw the same exact match happen in WWE or TNA, we might give it like ***1/2 or ***3.4.

Just thinking out loud lol

Yes. I was thinking this as well not long ago, When i watched the Jeff vs Morrison match from a few weeks ago i was thinking, This is great! But if i saw this in say, ROH, would i think it was as good? I dont know lol

[Devildude]

Originally Posted by erikstans07

Does anyone ever notice that sometimes we rate some matches lower, because they happen in the indy's? I've been thinking about it and sometimes, when we rate indy matches, we are little more critical of the matches. I say this because we give matches like Danielson/Dutt/Edwards ***, but I feel that if we saw the same exact match happen in WWE or TNA, we might give it like ***1/2 or ***3.4.

Just thinking out loud lol

Honestly I think the small things (or maybe not so small figuratively) that TNA and WWE do, like having better production, better commentary (sort of) and a larger and more vocal crowd add to the match more than your average indy. Of course that doesn't always hold true at some events and occasionally indy crowds can cheer and be into a match more than the thousands at a WWE or TNA show.

Another possibility might be the emotional investment into WWE and TNA wrestlers, moreso than just watching ROH or PWG for the quality of match, that can make a match seem better.

[erikstans07]

I'm pretty bummed that PWG hasn't officially released Secret of Guerrilla Island yet, because it's just making it that much longer til Threemendous II arrives in my mailbox.

[V1 Dante]

Originally Posted by erikstans07

Does anyone ever notice that sometimes we rate some matches lower, because they happen in the indy's? I've been thinking about it and sometimes, when we rate indy matches, we are little more critical of the matches. I say this because we give matches like Danielson/Dutt/Edwards ***, but I feel that if we saw the same exact match happen in WWE or TNA, we might give it like ***1/2 or ***3.4.

Just thinking out loud lol

For me when I watch some of the Indy stuff the biggest problem is the camera. Sometimes they miss so much action or the camera is taping it from far away and I cant really see the move or the expression on the wrestlers face. Atleast thats how it is when I watch indy matches from 2001 and below.

[Seabs]

ROH Contention

Colt Cabana, Necro Butcher and Grizzly Redwood vs. Jimmy Rave, Claudio Castagnoli and Ernie Osiris
Easily the most I've enjoyed an Embassy match since the return of Nana. Grizzly is awesome.
***

Shawn Spears vs. Alex Payne
*

Bryan Danielson vs. Kenny King
Snapmares ftw. Titus regained some of his previous awesomeness by singing his own theme song mid match.
***1/2

Kevin Steen and El Generico vs. The Young Bucks
Reminded me a lot of Steenerico/Briscoes from 5YF. Like them or not, spotty or not you cant deny that the Bucks always put on great matches. ROH needed them.
****

Austin Aries vs. Roderick Strong vs. Eddie Edwards vs. D-Lo Brown
**1/2

Jimmy Jacobs vs. Sonjay Dutt
Enjoyed this more than others it seems
***1/4+

Jay Briscoe vs. Davey Richards
***1/4

Jerry Lynn vs. Tyler Black
***1/4

Overall:
Snapmares are indeed awesome. Dunno what that was all about but it was awesome all the way throughout the show and made it a fun show to watch. Damn Tyler for not hitting that super snapmare. Flair's promo sucked balls and was totally unneccesary. Give Danielson/King the 15 minutes you wasted on Flair and Spears. Really fun show and one of the best so far this year imo.

[Tarfu]

The date for this year's BOLA has been announced.

Originally Posted by PWG Message Board

Pro Wrestling Guerrilla's 2009 Battle of Los Angeles is set to take place on Friday, November 20 and Saturday, November 21, 2009.

So it's a two-night tourney again. And I'm pretty sure they'll announce a different venue later, propably Burbank.

[Seabs]

2 nights with it being all BOLA like last year works better. Cant wait to see some names announced.