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**McQueen** · 06-23-2008, 10:55 AM

So do I, I just don't take them as gospel. The way I see it if someone as anal retentive as Meltzer gives something *****'s its probably pretty close to *****'s. Sometimes I agree, sometimes I don't.

**Benjo™** · 06-23-2008, 10:55 AM

I feel like rewatching Destiny again just for KENTA/Kanemaru and Kobashi/Sasaki.

**Jack Evans 187** · 06-23-2008, 11:01 AM

^^^ Don't forget about the tag title match.

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Originally Posted by McQueen

So do I, I just don't take them as gospel. The way I see it if someone as anal retentive as Meltzer gives something *****'s its probably pretty close to *****'s. Sometimes I agree, sometimes I don't.

Yeah. Same. Except he has HBK/Flair at ***1/2, which is insanely low... But I'm not gonna go into that.

Kapone89 · 06-23-2008, 12:59 PM

I have the Departure show.
And i would recommend it to anyone who likes wrestling. Harley Race himself said it was the best or one of the best
wrestling shows he had ever seen live.
Kobashi Vs. Akiyama especially is a fantastic match.

ricky6 · 06-23-2008, 01:27 PM

Has anyone ever purchased a grab bag from ROH, and were any of the dvds actually good?

**-Mystery-** · 06-23-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ricky6

Has anyone ever purchased a grab bag from ROH, and were any of the dvds actually good?

I have, twice actually. I got a couple Straight Shootin' and Best Ofs along with various other Indy DVDs. I got this badass WXW show once which has Ares/Kobashi on it.

I've heard some people got FIP and ROH shows before.

**Spartanlax** · 06-23-2008, 01:52 PM

So, I just watched McGuinness/Joe from FYF Liverpool for the first time...wow. The match was just 'good' for a while, but then the superb booking took place that really elevated it to this level of awesomeness that had me cheering for McGuinness so damn much. Also played off their previous encounters real well. Fantastic main event. **** - ****1/4

**McQueen** · 06-23-2008, 01:56 PM

-Mystery- I watched Alex Pain vs Steve Douglas last night from 16 Carat Night 2 and that was a fucking crazy match and it was fun to watch, but the amount of overkill with the spots bothered me a little. It was about as bad as the Ladder War. However I never would have expected Stevie Douglas to be that tough from his usual heel sthick so he impressed me a lot.

Plus Pain using the song "Heir Komst Alex" as his theme was pretty cool, I like that song and it totally got the crowd pumped up.

Oh and yeah Johnny Saint was fucking awesome.

**-Mystery-** · 06-23-2008, 02:00 PM

Yeah, I didn't like how they kept going outside the ring to do a spot. I liked it the first time around but started to get annoying after like the fourth time. I suppose it made sense though in whole scheme of things because Pain was out for revenge and Douglas was trying to put Pain out of WXW for good. Still a crazy fucking match though.

**McQueen** · 06-23-2008, 02:05 PM

The finish which was pretty cool in the first place seemed like shit after some of the stuff they pulled out earlier in that match. I don't understand why a lot of indy guys don't understand this.

Ah well what can you do.