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Old 04-21-2009, 03:36 PM   #4461 (permalink)
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PROMO - Team Epic War
This was pretty good, especially the Austin Aries stuff, who seemed to be playing the opposite of his ROH character. He was smiling and giving thumbs up, saying he was here for the fans. I think he's lost his mind.

1. Team EPIC WAR vs The F1RST Family - ***
This was a solid opener with nice action throughout. Playing up Aries' "Indian Heritage" was pretty damn funny. Good stuff, but predictable. I love Cruz and Corbin's finisher, I really do.

2. The Osirian Portal vs Team PWG - ***1/2
A bit disappointing, but I had very high expectations. Generico and the Young Bucks were great and Amasis and Ophidian were good. I was not impressed with Egipcio at all, and his botches and general stumbling really brought the match down.

PROMO - The Roughnecks
This was very good, with Eddie Kingston running down his less than orthodox trio. Brodie Lee still scares the crap out of me.

3. The Roughnecks vs Team Uppercut - ***1/4
This was too long with WAY too much stalling. No one really seemed to be interested in actually wrestling. A really fantastic finish saved this from becoming a disaster. This will not be the last time I type this: Dave Taylor should be a regular. He was having the time of his life and should be at every show.

PROMO - Da Soul Touchaz
It's always a good time when the Touchaz are on a Chikara show. Their energy is palpable and you can't help but smile at the antics of C.Red and company.

4. Da Soul Touchaz vs Team CZW - ***3/4
Very good match with a ton of hilarious stuff, including Beef Wellington rapping, Pinkie and his ass, and an epic dance-off to Sir Mix-A-Lot's "Jump On It!". I had low expectations for this, so to say I was very surprised by how great it was would be an understatement.

5. F.I.S.T. vs The Death Match Kings - ***3/4
Shockingly, this was my favorite match of Night 1. Necro straight-up murdered every member of F.I.S.T. and had the most memorable moment of night one: a seated punch for kick brawl with Gran Akuma. Guess who won. Everyone played their roles well and if it was up Brain Damage, there'd be a rematch under Death Match rules. Here's hoping.

6. Team DDT vs The Future is Now - **3/4
Bleh. This was very disjointed and sloppy. Nakazawa's slip n' slide double stomp senton was awesome, but nothing else really stood out for me. The finish could have been a sight to behold, but the guy with the ring bell screwed it up, so it failed, as did everything else in this match. Crowd hated it, too.

7. Incoherence vs The Masters of a Thousand Holds - ***3/4
Good stuff from both sides. I was as impressed with Frightmare as I was unimpressed with Escorpion. He looked so natural in there with Quack and Skayde. Some sloppiness brings it down, and the finish was out of nowhere. Delirious had some great lines when getting tied up by Saint, including "My nerves!" and "I hate this!". He tagged out, telling Hallowicked, "Watch him! He's got tricks!". Hilarious. This should have been the Main.

PROMO - The Cold Front
Al Snow did a great job explaining why Iceberg was a no show: "He's a slow moving block of ice." Simple enough I guess, and it explained why this match was on last; they were waiting on his replacement...

8. The UnStable vs The Cold Front - **1/4
The segment to find a new partner was classic Chikara: a random hat drawing. Avatar? Al says no. Leif Cassidy? Al will kill Leonard. AMAZING RED? Not here. D'LO BROWN!?!? Not here...or is he!? YES! D'lo is in the house! Great segment...brutally awful match. No flow, reason, or purpose. This was the worst match of the show, and is only memorable for Snow telling Delaney, "Don't worry, we all got fired, too." and D'lo getting pinned. Ugh.

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OVERALL - 7 / 10
This was a bit of a letdown, but a fun show despite my high expectations. For some reason, the bad really ate away at the good. Moments like seeing Johnny Saint wiggle and Dave Taylor giggle were trumped by some epic crap from Lince Dorado and D'lo Brown. It's a good show, no doubt, but only as a set-up for the rest of the tournament, which WILL improve on this for sure. Kudos to Gran Akuma for taking one of the nastiest pure beatings I've seen in a wrestling ring and Claudio Castagnoli for pulling off a great feat of stamina and strength to save an otherwise boring match. You can get this DVD at smartmarkvideo.com along with Nights 2 and 3, as well as past King of Trios DVDs.
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:14 PM   #4462 (permalink)
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So, yeah, I watched that puro stuff earlier.


Jumbo Tsuruta, Akira Taue & Masa Fuchi v Mitsuharu Misawa, Toshiaki Kawada & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi (All Japan Pro Wrestling, 8/18/90)

HO-LY-SHIT... this fucking ruled. It's one of the few All Japan matches from the 90s that I had never seen before, since I had decided to skip it when I worked my way through the decade however many years ago I took that task upon myself. It was clearly a mistake, however, because there's no way I would've passed on this had I known it was this great.

The thing about All Japan that often turns those that are treading the waters of puro away is the unquestionable factorisation of past history into everything they do. All Japan isn't a promotion that you could really just casually stroll upon and watch a random match of if you don't know the extensive backstory. It's probably the biggest knock I could give against the promotion, because the actual wrestling is the best there's ever been. The thing that often deters me personally from really watching a lot of All Japan these days is its insistency on having the viewer pay close attention to every detail and subtlety, something I have little time or attention to do now that my brain's been effectively lariato-d to shit by that Jameson fella (anybody that gets that deserves a cookie) and two rampant, retarded dogs that I share a house with. Still, on the rare occasion I'm able to sit and actually watch and pay attention to an All Japan match, there's not much better in terms of watching pro-wresting to pass the time. Luckily enough, the dogs were asleep and Jameson ran out (there I go again), so I found myself in as good a position as any to watch some All Japan.

This bad boy starts out doing what most All Japan tags to exceptionally well - establishing the roles of the participants. Coming off the heels of Misawa scoring a huge win over Jumbo a couple months prior, their feud was in full swing at this point, and those two were the leaders of their respective armies. Jumbo was still the top dog in AJ, but Misawa wasn't far off. Then their respective right hand men; Kawada stood behind Misawa while Taue had stepped in recently as Jumbo's second. Kawada was still higher on the totem pole than Taue, though, and that's established early as Kawada kicks Taue in the face. Literally. Three times. Finally, you've got Fuchi and Kikuchi. Fuchi's not too far off Taue as Jumbo's second, and is also one of the true veterans on the scene; a mean, nasty motherfucker. Kikuchi's not even Misawa's third in command - that'd be an absent Kenta Kobashi - so he's basically the runt of the litter here, and everybody's above Kikuchi on the totem pole in this. Naturally, he takes a shit kicking. A real fuckin' MANLY shitkicking. After managing to get a decent spell of offence in on Fuchi (made possible by Kawada's face kicking tendencies which opened the door initially), he's met with a HUGE lariat from Taue, and that gives Jumbo's army the first real swing of momentum.

Soon enough Misawa's in there with Jumbo, and that's where they turn up the level of hatred, complete with face-caving forearms, knees, kicks, and the odd lariat thrown in for good measure. Kikuchi's second decapitation comes from Jumbo, who fucking NUKES him with a monster lariat, and without Misawa on hand to break the pin attempt, there'd be no chance of him getting up. Kawada manages to kick people in the face some more, too, and that's pretty glorious. Always is.

The finishing stretch is pretty indicative of a regular AJ finishing stretch. Y'know... awesome. Towards the end of the decade they'd rely heavily on headdrops and insane bumps down the stretch, but the first 7 or so years were much more focused, and that's definitely the case here. The roles that were established earlier in the match are constantly being played, and as a result, one would expect Tsuyoshi Kikuchi to be the fall guy. He was only a junior heavyweight amongst the mounds of beef and hatred of the heavyweights, after all. But, as he had done the entire match, he was surviving, and he apparently decided that Akira Taue should pay for some wrongs he had suffered, looking like he may actually be able to beat the lanky heavyweight. His partners did all they could to keep Taue's buddies away from the ring so Kikuchi would be able to finish the giant, who he seemed to be chopping down to size. That's until Taue got a hold of Kikuchi and dropped him with a big bomb of his own. Still, Kikuchi would survive - again - and the place exploded at the thought of the spunky babyface beating the grumpy heel. Then Taue drops him on his neck with a back suplex and there's no way he's able to get up from that. So close, but Kikuchi probably never really had a chance anyway. Misawa and Jumbo were far from settled, but they'd have to wait until the next month before they got a hold of each other again. (They'd have the best singles match I've ever seen when they did, btw.)

Tremendous match, and one that crept right up on me and blew me the fuck away. Everything I look for in a wrestling match is here, and it only makes me wish I could muster up enough motivation and attention to watch more of the same. Funny thing is, this probably isn't even a top 10 match for 4 of these guys. It's probably not even a top 5 match of 1990 for All Japan. It's not even a top 10 six man tag from All Japan, either. I guess that All Japan company was pretty good. Who knew?

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8. The UnStable vs The Cold Front - **1/4
The segment to find a new partner was classic Chikara: a random hat drawing. Avatar? Al says no. Leif Cassidy? Al will kill Leonard. AMAZING RED? Not here. D'LO BROWN!?!? Not here...or is he!? YES! D'lo is in the house! Great segment...brutally awful match. No flow, reason, or purpose. This was the worst match of the show, and is only memorable for Snow telling Delaney, "Don't worry, we all got fired, too." and D'lo getting pinned. Ugh.
Al Snow single-handedly killed that match. Glacier looked like he was having fun and D'Lo was fine and inoffensive but Al Snow was boring and his control of the match destroyed any chance of anyone caring about anything involved in it.

But Night Two is definitely better and the Rey de Voladores matches own.
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Which night of King of Trios should I get if I'm just gonna get one?
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I've only completely seen the 1st two night & I liked Night Two better overall, although the LWA Showcase match rivals Cold Front/Unstable for worst match for the weekend.
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I've only completely seen the 1st two night & I liked Night Two better overall, although the LWA Showcase match rivals Cold Front/Unstable for worst match for the weekend.
Oh Sweet Jesus was that bad. Who did they suck off to get on a King of Trios DVD!?!?!

I've seen up to the first disc of Night 3. It's fucking awesome. Both semi-final trios matches are kickass.
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I think it's a toss up on Night 2 and 3. Night 2 has two excellent RdV matches(one probably tied for being match of the weekend only to the RdV finals), and awesome tournament matches. While Night 3 also has great stuff, two really good singles matches in Aries/Kingston and Generico/Cannon and a 5 star RdV final.
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Caged Collision is up for preorder


1. Kenny King vs. Silas Young vs. Alex Payne
2. Claudio Castagnoli vs. Kevin Steen
3. Delirious & Brodie Lee vs. Jerry Lynn & Necro Butcher
4. Austin Aries & Jimmy Jacobs vs. Bryan Danielson & Tyler Black
5. Nigel McGuinness vs. El Generico (ROH World Title Match)
6. Brent Albright, Roderick Strong, Jay Briscoe, Erick Stevens, & Ace Steel vs. Sweet N' Sour Inc. (Steel Cage Match)

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Does anybody know if JAPW's 11th anniversary show is worth getting?
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Al Snow single-handedly killed that match. Glacier looked like he was having fun and D'Lo was fine and inoffensive but Al Snow was boring and his control of the match destroyed any chance of anyone caring about anything involved in it.
Ya, when Al came to F1RST and wrestled Jerry Lynn, it was terrible whenever he was on offense. Sloppy, boring, just going through the motions. Jerry on the other hand worked his ass off to save that match.
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