[dele]

Originally Posted by -Mystery-

2009 KOTDM has been hilariously bad thus far.

To say it was bad was an understatement. To think that the people in the front row paid $250 for a 2 day pass is laughable.

Originally Posted by erikstans07

Or you could watch wrestling.

STFU ROH-Bot

[-Mystery-]

Ian was charging $250 for front row?

I love wrestling as much as the next guy, but I don't give a fuck how stacked the card is, I ain't spending $250 for see two nights of indy wrestling.

[dele]

Originally Posted by -Mystery-

Ian was charging $250 for front row?

I love wrestling as much as the next guy, but I don't give a fuck how stacked the card is, I ain't spending $250 for see two nights of indy wrestling.

Unless every match is an ultimate dream match, I'm not paying that much. Hell, the most BJW ever charged was $65 for a front row seat at Yokohama Cultural Gymnasium.

Edit:
IWA-MS KOTDM final:
Thumbtack Jack vs MASADA vs Necro Butcher vs Some Jobber
30 Minute Iron Man Match
**1/4-1/2
Only redeeming thing about it was Necro and MASADA going punch for punch at the end.

[-Mystery-]

I'd probably only pay top dollar for Mania, that's about it.

[dele]

Yeah, the most I've paid for a ticket was $125 for a first deck bleacher seat at Mania 24.

Also, moment of the tournament:

A guy I know from the BJW forums asks Masada before his match with Corporal Robinson
Him: So are you gonna do anything with Miyamoto for the Death Match Title?
Masada: I wish, BJW pays me to sit around and jerk off in a hotel all day. Why do you think I came here?

It's awesome because you can see it plain as day.

[Maxx Hero]

Most I ever paid was $35 for row two at Epic Encounter II. I think I would go up to about $50, but after that, I would just take a few rows back. Not worth the money. Even for mania.

[KingCrash]

$250 for the front row? That's ridiculous for stadium seating much less a gym with maybe 4 rows.

KOTDM 09 was barely better than Carnage Cup 08. Jimmy Jacobs just looked bored in both his matches.

[KYSeahawks]

Just finished watching Caged Rage an enjoyable show not great but still entertaining.

Caged Rage

Hallowicked vs Chris Hero-**1/2 (I really miss goofy Hero was really entertaining)
Rhett Titus vs Jimmy Jacobs-*1/2
4 Corner Survival
Adam Pearce vs Delerious vs BJ Whitmer vs Nigel McGuiness-**3/4
Edwards/Blade/Richards vs Aries/Cross/Stevens=***1/2
Pac vs Bryan Danielson-**3/4
3 Way Elimination=ROH World Title
Brent Albright vs Takeshi Morishima vs Claudio Castagnoli-****
Steel Cage Match
Jack Evans vs Roderick Strong-***1/2
Steel Cage Match-ROH World Tag Team Titles
Steen/Generico vs Briscoes-***3/4

The 6 Man Tag Match had a great dynamic and really enjoyed it.But the 3 way really suprised me and was a very entertaining and exciting match.Danielson match just seemed like a squash.

[CM Putnam]

My ROH Pay Per View Reviews


Respect Is Earned

Takeshi Morishima vs. B.J. Whitmer *1/4
Rocky Romero vs. Naomichi Marufuji ****
The Briscoes vs. Claudio Castagnoli & Matt Sydal ****1/4
Roderick Strong vs. Delirious **3/4
Bryan Danielson & Takeshi Morishima vs. Nigel McGuinness & KENTA ***3/4

Overall: 8/10

Overall this is a really good pay per view that gets overshadowed by the two that followed. It's a great introduction show, but at the same time long time fans will enjoy it too. While it doesn't contain any five star must see classics there are definitely matches on the card worth going out of your way to see. There could be some improvements production wise, but I'm not complaining.

Driven

Matt Cross, Erick Stevens, & Delirious vs. Roderick Strong, Rocky Romero & Davey Richards ***1/2
Claudio Castagnoli vs. Matt Sydal ***
B.J. Whitmer vs. Naomichi Marufuji **1/4
Brent Albright vs. Pelle Primeau 1/2*
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico ****
Takeshi Morishma vs. Jimmy Rave *
Bryan Danielson vs. Nigel McGuinness ****3/4

Overall 9/10

A huge leap from Respect Is Earned. At the same time though it's not the be all end all pay per view that some make it out to be. The main event completely overshadows the matches that came before it. A great event shouldn't do that. It also suffers from too many squash matches and exhibition matches. Namely Marufuji/ Whitmer and Morishima/Rave.

The positives though outweigh the negatives. You have a great six man opener. The tag team title match is really good and of course you get an ROH classic match in the main event. Miles ahead of Respect Is Earned and one of the best pay per views of 2007.

Man Up

Nigel McGuinness vs. Claudio Castagnoli vs. Naomichi Marufuji vs. Chris Hero ****
Rocky Romero vs. M-Dogg Matt Cross **1/2
Austin Aries vs. Davey Richards ***1/2
Roderick Strong vs. Erick Stevens ***3/4
Bryan Danielson vs. Takeshi Morishima ****1/2
The Briscoes vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico *****

Overall 10/10

Good lord what a show. It's as if the previous pay per views were building to this one. Not a single bad match on the card. The worst match on the card was only ranked lower because it was so short. Every match was part of a bigger story. It wasn't marred by any squash matches or exhibition matches.

The main event was the best match of the night, yet unlike Driven it didn't overshadow the other matches on the card. Danielson and Morishima put on a great World Title Match. The opening four-way was a great start to the show. Erick Stevens put on a star making match against Roderick Strong. Everything just clicked on this show. Truly, one of the best pay per views ever.

Undeniable

Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black vs. Jack Evans & Ruckus **1/2
Sara Del Rey vs. Daizee Haize DUD
Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Hero **3/4
Delirious, Kevin Steen, & El Generico vs. Adam Pearce, Brent Albright & B.J. Whitmer ***
Austin Aries vs. Roderick Strong ****1/4
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Davey Richards & Rocky Romero **3/4
Nigel McGuinness vs. Takeshi Morishima **1/2

Overall 6/10

Wow, what a disappointment. With only one match worth seeing and rest ranging from good to major disappointment, this pay per view can only be as a major let down. I knew it would be hard to top Man Up, but they could have tried harder than this. Recommended for completists only.

Rising Above

Brent Albright vs. Delirious **
Adam Pearce & B.J. Whitmer vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black vs. Jack Evans & Ruckus vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico ***
Sara Del Rey vs. Lacey vs. Daizzee Haize *1/2
Erick Stevens vs. Davey Richards **1/2
Claudio Castagnoli vs. Chris Hero ***
Bryan Danielson vs. Takeshi Morishima ***3/4
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Roderick Strong & Rocky Romero **3/4
Nigel McGuinness vs. Austin Aries ****3/4

Overall 8/10

Well it's not perfect, so let's start with the bad. A few ok matches like Delirious vs. Albright and the women's three way. One very disappointing match in the tag team title match and between matches they had some backstage footage that built up to the end of the show where everyone brawled in the back. Unfortunately the footage came off as corny. What is great about it thought and definitely worth seeing is the main event and Danielson vs. Morishima. The tag team scramble was action packed and Hero and Castagnoli had a good match. Much better than Undeniable but not on par with Driven or Man Up

Take No Prisoners

Tyler Black vs. Claudio Castagnoli vs. Go Shiozaki vs. Delirious ***
Kevin Steen vs. Roderick Strong **3/4
Jay & Mark Briscoe w/ Daizee Haize vs. Necro Butcher & Joey Matthews w/ Lacey ***
Brent Alright vs. Erick Stevens **1/4
Davey Richards & Rocky Romero vs. Jigsaw & Ruckus ***1/4
Bryan Danielson vs. Austin Aries ****1/4
Tyler Black vs. Nigel McGuinness ****1/2

Overall 8/10

A solid pay per view. No real bad matches and the last two matches are well worth going out of your way to see. My biggest complaint though isn't for the wrestling, it's for the cheesy segments with Jimmy Jacobs lecturing a group of "outcasts" on the ways of the Age of the Fall. Besides that it was a really good pay per view.

Respect Is Earned II

Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. Ruckus & Jigsaw **3/4
Davey Richards vs. Claudio Castagnoli **1/4
Chris Hero, Adam Pearce and Eddie Edwards vs. Brent Albright, Delirious and Pelle Primeu ***
Erick Stevens vs. Roderick Strong ***3/4
Nigel McGuinness vs. Go Shiozaki ***1/4
Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black vs. Austin Aries & Bryan Danielson ****1/2

Overall 7/10

Unfortunately this was the second worst ROH Pay Per View besides Undeniable. While production wise it was a step up from the previous one. Match wise it wasn't up to par as there was one great match, while the others were either disappointing or just there. The main event saved the show.

[Sephiroth]

I've seen these somewhere before

Did ROH PPVs peak with Man Up? Undeniable was such a disappointing followup that it seems that since that one ROH has been trying to dig their way out of a hole (as far as PPVs go) I wrote reviews for every pay per view up to Respect is Earned II. Here are my ratings and the reasoning behind them

Originally Posted by CM Putnam

My ROH Pay Per View Reviews


Respect Is Earned

Takeshi Morishima vs. B.J. Whitmer *1/4
Rocky Romero vs. Naomichi Marufuji ****
The Briscoes vs. Claudio Castagnoli & Matt Sydal ****1/4
Roderick Strong vs. Delirious **3/4
Bryan Danielson & Takeshi Morishima vs. Nigel McGuinness & KENTA ***3/4

Overall: 8/10

Overall this is a really good pay per view that gets overshadowed by the two that followed. It's a great introduction show, but at the same time long time fans will enjoy it too. While it doesn't contain any five star must see classics there are definitely matches on the card worth going out of your way to see. There could be some improvements production wise, but I'm not complaining.

Driven

Matt Cross, Erick Stevens, & Delirious vs. Roderick Strong, Rocky Romero & Davey Richards ***1/2
Claudio Castagnoli vs. Matt Sydal ***
B.J. Whitmer vs. Naomichi Marufuji **1/4
Brent Albright vs. Pelle Primeau 1/2*
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico ****
Takeshi Morishma vs. Jimmy Rave *
Bryan Danielson vs. Nigel McGuinness ****3/4

Overall 9/10

A huge leap from Respect Is Earned. At the same time though it's not the be all end all pay per view that some make it out to be. The main event completely overshadows the matches that came before it. A great event shouldn't do that. It also suffers from too many squash matches and exhibition matches. Namely Marufuji/ Whitmer and Morishima/Rave.

The positives though outweigh the negatives. You have a great six man opener. The tag team title match is really good and of course you get an ROH classic match in the main event. Miles ahead of Respect Is Earned and one of the best pay per views of 2007.

Man Up

Nigel McGuinness vs. Claudio Castagnoli vs. Naomichi Marufuji vs. Chris Hero ****
Rocky Romero vs. M-Dogg Matt Cross **1/2
Austin Aries vs. Davey Richards ***1/2
Roderick Strong vs. Erick Stevens ***3/4
Bryan Danielson vs. Takeshi Morishima ****1/2
The Briscoes vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico *****

Overall 10/10

Good lord what a show. It's as if the previous pay per views were building to this one. Not a single bad match on the card. The worst match on the card was only ranked lower because it was so short. Every match was part of a bigger story. It wasn't marred by any squash matches or exhibition matches.

The main event was the best match of the night, yet unlike Driven it didn't overshadow the other matches on the card. Danielson and Morishima put on a great World Title Match. The opening four-way was a great start to the show. Erick Stevens put on a star making match against Roderick Strong. Everything just clicked on this show. Truly, one of the best pay per views ever.

Undeniable

Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black vs. Jack Evans & Ruckus **1/2
Sara Del Rey vs. Daizee Haize DUD
Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Hero **3/4
Delirious, Kevin Steen, & El Generico vs. Adam Pearce, Brent Albright & B.J. Whitmer ***
Austin Aries vs. Roderick Strong ****1/4
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Davey Richards & Rocky Romero **3/4
Nigel McGuinness vs. Takeshi Morishima **1/2

Overall 6/10

Wow, what a disappointment. With only one match worth seeing and rest ranging from good to major disappointment, this pay per view can only be as a major let down. I knew it would be hard to top Man Up, but they could have tried harder than this. Recommended for completists only.

Rising Above

Brent Albright vs. Delirious **
Adam Pearce & B.J. Whitmer vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black vs. Jack Evans & Ruckus vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico ***
Sara Del Rey vs. Lacey vs. Daizzee Haize *1/2
Erick Stevens vs. Davey Richards **1/2
Claudio Castagnoli vs. Chris Hero ***
Bryan Danielson vs. Takeshi Morishima ***3/4
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Roderick Strong & Rocky Romero **3/4
Nigel McGuinness vs. Austin Aries ****3/4

Overall 8/10

Well it's not perfect, so let's start with the bad. A few ok matches like Delirious vs. Albright and the women's three way. One very disappointing match in the tag team title match and between matches they had some backstage footage that built up to the end of the show where everyone brawled in the back. Unfortunately the footage came off as corny. What is great about it thought and definitely worth seeing is the main event and Danielson vs. Morishima. The tag team scramble was action packed and Hero and Castagnoli had a good match. Much better than Undeniable but not on par with Driven or Man Up

Take No Prisoners

Tyler Black vs. Claudio Castagnoli vs. Go Shiozaki vs. Delirious ***
Kevin Steen vs. Roderick Strong **3/4
Jay & Mark Briscoe w/ Daizee Haize vs. Necro Butcher & Joey Matthews w/ Lacey ***
Brent Alright vs. Erick Stevens **1/4
Davey Richards & Rocky Romero vs. Jigsaw & Ruckus ***1/4
Bryan Danielson vs. Austin Aries ****1/4
Tyler Black vs. Nigel McGuinness ****1/2

Overall 8/10

A solid pay per view. No real bad matches and the last two matches are well worth going out of your way to see. My biggest complaint though isn't for the wrestling, it's for the cheesy segments with Jimmy Jacobs lecturing a group of "outcasts" on the ways of the Age of the Fall. Besides that it was a really good pay per view.

Respect Is Earned II

Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. Ruckus & Jigsaw **3/4
Davey Richards vs. Claudio Castagnoli **1/4
Chris Hero, Adam Pearce and Eddie Edwards vs. Brent Albright, Delirious and Pelle Primeu ***
Erick Stevens vs. Roderick Strong ***3/4
Nigel McGuinness vs. Go Shiozaki ***1/4
Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black vs. Austin Aries & Bryan Danielson ****1/2

Overall 7/10

Unfortunately this was the second worst ROH Pay Per View besides Undeniable. While production wise it was a step up from the previous one. Match wise it wasn't up to par as there was one great match, while the others were either disappointing or just there. The main event saved the show.