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ROH:Motor City Madness 2009

Bryan Danielson vs. Rhett Titus **3/4
Austin Aries vs. Silas Young **1/2
Necro Butcher vs. Brodie Lee *3/4
Jimmy Jacobs & Delirious vs. Roderick Strong & Erick Stevens **1/2
Brent Albright vs. Claudio Castagnoli **3/4
Tyler Black vs. Jerry Lynn ***1/2
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Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. The American Wolves (World Tag Team Title Match)***3/4
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erikstans07, you seen Go/Aries from 6AY? If you loved the Return of The 187 match then you'll love that one even more.

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Well, a bad match is a bad match so I don't get that sentiment. KENTA/Ishimori vs Shingo/Hulk was easily, easily the best DG match last year and I don't think I'd rate it that high at all.
I thought it was the pinnacle of a 3 star match but the roh followers pimped it out huge, it was pretty average even with KENTA getting pissed off with BxB hulk blowing everything and beating on him.

Cima v Yoshino from the same show was a better match and told its story far better imo.

Puroresu - the most perfect form of wrestling there is, the atmosphere, the wrestlers, everything. As far as im concerned it can do no wrong.

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erikstans07, you seen Go/Aries from 6AY? If you loved the Return of The 187 match then you'll love that one even more.
Yeah I saw that one. I still like the 187 match better. Maybe I should watch the 6AY match again, but I think the 187 match was really well put together and it had a lot going for it. Sweeney was there, it had Aries avoiding the chops, it had some cool, unique spots and it had an awesome finish. But I'll watch both of them again, back to back, and make another decision on them.

I got every match from your ROH Best of 2008 post (THANKS), only got like 4 left to watch.
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Debbie did Dallas, now Dave(Finlay) does New Japan Pro Wrestling!!!~

Fit Finlay v Jushin Liger; New Japan 2/6/91

Finlay will kill you. Liger's been on the receiving end of hellacious beatings before, though, so he's ready. Both guys are Godly. How's this not supposed to be good? It's nothing mind-blowing or anything, but Finlay and Liger in the same ring together just exudes an aura of "this is kinda weird... but awesome as shit", and then Finlay knocks Liger out with a forearm and starts stomping on his fingers and you think "yeah, this IS awesome". Finlay's pretty much unknown in Japan at this stage, but he sure as Hell does his best to get a reaction, generally by unleashing furious hate and stiffness on the Prince of Japan himself. It's obvious this is a set up for a match down the road because they're visibly holding off on the big stuff, and the finishing stretch is tame as a result. Still, as a taster of things to come, you can't really go wrong with this. ***


Fit Finlay & Franz Schumann v Jushin Liger & Hiroshi Hase; New Japan 2/14/91

So, now we've got Finlay, Liger and Hiro motherfuckin' Hase? And Franz Schumann, too?! Too. Cool. This was really good. They establish early that Hase and Schumann (who I'm calling the designated job guy right off the bat) are content with actually winning the match, Hase the technical wiz and Schumann the power hitter, whereas Finlay and Liger are more interested in breaking the other's face. They play off their previous singles match with the various ways of punching each other in the face and stuff, and at points you get the idea that Hase and Schumann are gonna have to try and calm their partner the fuck down or they'll lose the match. I'd like to point out that Hiroshi Hase rocks your cock. Guy's probably the best wrestler ever not to hold a world/top title (IWGP, Triple Crown, etc. and I'm not counting the WCW International Title that he held for a millisecond as a top title), and he's great at busting out some snazzy suplexes and takedowns on the bigger Schumann or surlier Finlay. His Giant Swing is over like crazy here, and there's a great spot where he tries to work Schumann into a Boston Crab unsuccessfully, so he pretty much says fuck it and decides to give him a Giant Swing instead. Hase is the man. Finish is mistimed with Liger hitting a Liger Bomb on Schumann and Finlay being out of position to do the "look like he tried to save him but couldn't" routine, ending up walking right by the pin attempt into Hase who's pretty lost himself at that point. Anyway, finish aside, this was good. ***1/4


Fit Finlay v Jushin Liger; New Japan 4/15/91

More Finlay v Liger, and this time they really make it click. It's clear right from the start this this is the match where they're gonna push things a little more, and by the 5 minute mark you've got Liger trying to kill Finlay by giving him a brainbuster on the fucking apron. I don't think it was actually supposed to be a brainbuster as opposed to Liger suplexing Finlay to the floor from the apron, but it sure as Hell becomes a brainbuster. Finlay continues to find variations of hurting people by punching Liger in the kidneys. Liger gets pissed and Shoteis him in the face a couple times before dropkicking him on the chin. Finishing stretch is really choice, and this time they do break out the big guns. Finlay even kicks out of the Liger Bomb and I'm actually thinking he has a chance of winning this. Then Liger completely crushes his skull with a DDT from the top rope, and even Fit Finlay ain't gettin' up. The fact they didn't go ape shit with spots yet managed to achieve a huge reaction from the crowd is part of the reason why I'd more often watch a low key juniors match from 1991 before a 40 minute juniors "epic" today. For a feud that consisted of three matches, the brief Finlay/Liger programme ruled pretty heavily. ***1/2


I also watched a Finlay v Chris Benoit match from Vienna and it managed to be better than almost everything I've seen from Japan in the last two years. This was 1991 Benoit, which makes me SUPER stoked for their match from '93 that I'm gonna get to soon.

Oh, and Finlay v Tony St. Clair from 9/9/91 (from Hanover) is the best thing ever on account of Finlay's antics at the beginning. Some kid in the crowd talks some trash, so Finlay stands on the turnbuckle and says to the kid's parents "If you bastards weren't so cheap you could buy satellite and watch me live on Eurosport". Finlay would be Jesus or something, right?
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Andy, want to cosplay as our favorite 90's juniors?

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I thought it was the pinnacle of a 3 star match but the roh followers pimped it out huge, it was pretty average even with KENTA getting pissed off with BxB hulk blowing everything and beating on him.

Cima v Yoshino from the same show was a better match and told its story far better imo.
I'd say it was about ***1/2, but of course the ROH fanboys will overate it, that is their reason for living afterall. Very good match with everything you want between those four, but hardly stellar.

CIMA/Yoshino sucked I though, pretty much summed up why I hate CIMA.


Watched Kasai/Numazawa deathmatch. Pretty amusing seeing two deathmatch guys work the mat a bit at the start, and some of the spots were freaking insane. Kasai, when on his A game, is so much fun to watch and he was awesome here. I;d say it was about ***1/2, and not for everyone, but I had a blast watching it.
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I'm gonna need the name and trader of the comp you got those off, Andy...
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Andy, want to cosplay as our favorite 90's juniors?

I call Sasuke
After hitting up google and typing "cosplay", I'd be more than happy to.

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I'm gonna need the name and trader of the comp you got those off, Andy...
Are you a member of Death Valley Driver?
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Andy you seen the Finlay/Liger '93 match from CWA Germany?

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