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Old 08-05-2008, 09:41 AM   #1321 (permalink)
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Apart from his matches with Danielson what other singles bouts has Tyler Black had in ROH that rival the clashes with Dragon (if any).
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Old 08-05-2008, 09:43 AM   #1322 (permalink)
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His match with Nigel?

He has also had some awesome tags with Jacobs.
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His match with Nigel is overrated.

He barely got any offense. I have no idea why people love that match so much.
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I, now have the match at only ****, but most likely it is still his 3rd best singles match in ROH.
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I, now have the match at only ****, but most likely it is still his 3rd best singles match in ROH.
It was a good match, but I have a hard time giving it ****. Tyler kicked out way too many times and got barely any offense in. It was a glorified squash match, in my opinion.
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Old 08-05-2008, 10:28 AM   #1326 (permalink)
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It was a good match, but I have a hard time giving it ****. Tyler kicked out way too many times and got barely any offense in. It was a glorified squash match, in my opinion.
Exactly; it was all about story-telling. Nigel is a veteran compared to Black, so naturally he was going to win...I mean, he's bigger, stronger, and more experienced, right? So, Nigel's dominating...dominating...dominating...and Black's still in the match. Nigel hits the lariat, and...gets a 2 count?! He hits it again...AND A 2 COUNT?! AND BLACK IS FIRING BACK?! HOLY FUCK BLACK'S GONNA WIN!

Black was made into a superstar with that match. He got in enough offense to remain credible and kicked out enough to look like a brave/tough mother fucker. That match made the crowd get behind Black 10000000% and then get PISSED at Nigel for winning. It was nearly perfect.
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The crowd made that match, Nigel v Black would have stunk if people didn't pop for the first falsy and stayed with it for the next 10. It worked well for what it was and its sole purpose was to get Tyler over, it isn't in the 4 star range, 4 star matches have to be very special but its a fun story and an exciting match.
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Exactly; it was all about story-telling. Nigel is a veteran compared to Black, so naturally he was going to win...I mean, he's bigger, stronger, and more experienced, right? So, Nigel's dominating...dominating...dominating...and Black's still in the match. Nigel hits the lariat, and...gets a 2 count?! He hits it again...AND A 2 COUNT?! AND BLACK IS FIRING BACK?! HOLY FUCK BLACK'S GONNA WIN!

Black was made into a superstar with that match. He got in enough offense to remain credible and kicked out enough to look like a brave/tough mother fucker. That match made the crowd get behind Black 10000000% and then get PISSED at Nigel for winning. It was nearly perfect.
The match made the Lariat look super weak.I was into the match thought it was great, but they over did the kick outs.
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Guys, What till you see the recent Black match with danielson. You will go drop-jaw of excenlecce. I might be overrating it cause I was there live, but it beats the nigel and the other danielson matchs.
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Guys, What till you see the recent Black match with danielson. You will go drop-jaw of excenlecce. I might be overrating it cause I was there live, but it beats the nigel and the other danielson matchs.
When you see a show live it always better than on DVD, except on some few rare occasions. I stopped caring about hype because when all the people who were live say something is the best thing ever, since the atmosphere isn't the same when watching a DVD its impossible to live up to those expecations.

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