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#3,627 ·
Go could've been so much more over if they just booked him in strong matches throughout his run like KENTA and such. He started with low opponents, prolly cause Gabe was like, "fuck it, I got a whole year to cycle him through the roster". But, suprise, he didn't face the top to start, never got over, and never got there. Woulda LOVED to seen Go/Dragon, Go/Strong, an ROH Go/Stevens blowoff, Go/Davey, Go/Black, Go/Hero, Go/Generico II (happened in a tourney his first night), Go/Necro again (never finished conclusively), among others, and if they had time to cycle him in with the new guyss, Go/Omega or Brodie could be real cool. Lotta missed ops imo.
 
#3,631 ·
Ring of Honor - Glory By Honor V Night 1
1. The Ring Crew Express vs Rhett Titus & Pelle Primeau (*)
2. The Ring Crew Express vs The Kings of Wrestling (*1/2)
3. Four Corner Survival (**1/2)
4. Christopher Daniels vs Nigel McGuiness (***)
5. Austin Aries vs Davey Richards (**3/4)
6. Delirious vs Shane Hagadorn (*1/2)
7. Samoa Joe vs Roderick Strong (***3/4)
8. KENTAFuji vs The Briscoes (***3/4)
 
#3,635 ·
ROH Southern Hostility

The Briscoe Brothers & Kenny Omega vs. Kenny King, Sal Rinuaro, & Rhett Titus
**1/2

Delirious vs. Alex Payne
**

Daizee Haze vs. Sara Del Rey vs. Serena Deeb vs. Ashley Lane
*1/2

Brent Albright & Erick Stevens vs. Davey Richards & Larry Sweeney
**

Irish Airborne vs. Grizzly Redwood & Bushwhacker Luke Williams
1/4*

Necro Butcher & Austin Aries vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black
**3/4

Claudio Castagnoli vs. Bryan Danielson - No DQ
***3/4

Nigel McGuinness vs. Jerry Lynn - ROH World Championship
***3/4

Overall:
Not a bad show, but by no means not a great show. The two main events could have been better. Nothing fantastic.
 
#3,638 ·
So, I watched some All Japan Pro Wrestling from the 90s, and I suggest everybody do the same.

Jumbo Tsuruta v Muitsuharu Misawa, 6/8/90

This is basically the uprising of Mitsuharu Misawa. Jumbo is still the fucking man in AJPW, but Misawa isn't far off in a lot of peoples' mind at this point, and here we have Jumbo out to make sure people still realise it's a bigger gap than those motherfuckers think.

He comes out all a lariating and kicking and clubbering aplenty, and Misawa is basically treated like his bitch. He flies around and does some Tiger Mask II shtick, though, and you get the sense that Jumbo may not be able to cope with it, seeing as how he's not used to going up against juniors. Misawa controls some portions, but the jumping knees and lariats always keep Jumbo out in front.

It's Misawa's flying, junior-esq offence against Jumbo's clubbering and Hulk smash offence, but Misawa is visibly better at the clubbering and heavyweight offence than Jumbo is at the flying.

Misawa's a spunky dude, and he's ready for his opportunity, so he SLAPS the king as he backs him into the corner. Jumbo looks at him like "Did... did you... tell me you didn't" and stalks him down. Misawa backs him into the ropes and slaps him AGAIN, though, and Jumbo's all looking at Misawa and the ref' like "Mothefucker, I will KILL you. Can he do that? Can he fuckin' slap me?!" and the ref's throwing his hands up like "Hey, man... leave me the fuck OUT of this shit!" so Jumbo explodes Misawa's face with a jumping knee, the equivalent of Misawa headbutting a grenade or a claymore or something.

Jumbo works away at Misawa, but he just can't seem to keep him down. He hits about 4 lariats, and Misawa keeps sticking a shoulder up. Hell, Jumbo takes his eye off the ball for a second and Misawa's flying around again like a pest a' Hell pissing off Jumbo some more. Another key is Misawa's forearm smashes. Every time he hits one, we're reminded of the 6-man tag that started this whole feud where Jumbo was layed out by Misawa's forearm for about 5 minutes. They're just as effective here, and it essentially establishes that move as a legit finisher for the rest of his entire fucking career. A FOREARM! Fuck Chris Hero; Misawa will kill you, son.

Down the stretch it's a lot more give and take, with both guys starting to throw bombs as each other. Misawa scores with a German suplex from Hell and gets a massive 2 count. Jumbo almost kills him with a powerbomb, but Misawa kicks out of that, and the crowd are fucking nuclear. That's the big turning point right there. It's a fucking HUGE moral victory for Misawa. Sure, Jumbo kicked out of Misawa's German suplex, but Misawa still has the Tiger Driver up his sleeve, whereas Jumbo has exhausted almost all of his bombs and still can't keep that shit head down. He's losing it.

Jumbo then decides he's gonna throw a bunch of lariats at Misawa in hopes of getting the job done. Misawa tries to reverse one, though, and Jumbo has to throw a forearm at him before he's caught with a cross body. He connects, but he hurts his arm on Misawa's skull... his lariat arm. Misawa's against the ropes. Jumbo's chance is NOW. Lariat the motherfucker!He charges, but at the last second he changes his mind... his arm is hurt... a trusty flying knee should be just as effective. But Misawa moves, and Jumbo hurts himself bad getting tangled up nastily in the ropes. Now's Misawa's chance and he goes for Jumbo's own finishing move - the backdrop driver. Jumbo still has enough left in the tank to reverse it and land on top of Misawa in a pinning attempt... but Misawa has more, reversing that into his own pinning attempt, scoring a win against the king of All Japan.

Everybody completely LOSEES their shit! The commentator has a fit, the crowd go fucking batshit insane, and Misawa's buddies hoist him up on their shoulders to celebrate, but not before Misawa checks with an equally astounded referee that he has in fact beaten Jumbo fuggin' Tsuruta. Everybody is ecstatic - the young Misawa has just cemented himself as a star. Everybody except Jumbo, as he slowly leaves the ring a beaten man, almost an afterthought.

For now, at least. No way he's going down without a fight...

This match is fucking fantastic! I still prefer their rematch to this, but damn, everybody needs to see this bad boy. Incredible.

*****
 
#3,647 ·
Everyone should indeed see Jumbo vs. Misawa.
 
#3,648 ·
Ring of Honor - Glory By Honor V Night 2
1. Evans vs Richards (**3/4)
2. Pearce vs Delirious (**)
3. Jacobs vs Cabana vs Daniels (**1/2)
4. Joe/Homicide vs The Briscoes (***)
5. Aries/Strong vs Hero/Castagnoli (***)
6. Marufuji vs McGuiness (***3/4)
7. Danielson vs KENTA (****1/2)

Ring of Honor - Survival of the Fittest 2006
1. Richards vs Sydal (**3/4)
2. Delirious vs Rave (**)
3. Aries vs Daniels (***)
4. The Briscoes vs Homicide/Strong (**3/4)
5. Danielson vs Joe (***)
6. Hero/Castagnoli vs Jacobs/Cabana (**3/4)
7. Survival of the Fittest (***3/4)

Ring of Honor - Honor Reclaims Boston
1. McGuiness vs Walters (***)
2. Martinez vs Haze (*3/4)
3. Daniels vs Hero (**3/4)
4. Claudio vs Sydal (***)
5. Homicide/Joe/Whitmer vs The Briscoes/Corino (**3/4)
6. Cabana vs Rave (**1/2)
7. Danielson vs Delirious (***)
8. Aries/Strong vs KENTA/Richards (****)
 
#3,650 · (Edited)
ROH All Star Extravaganza IV
1. Kenny Omega vs. Rhett Titus - **
2. Erick Stevens vs. Chris Hero - ***1/4
3. Sasaki & Nakajima vs. Albright & Strong - ****1/4
4. Takeshi Morishima vs. Go Shiozaki. - ***
5. McGuinness & Castagnoli vs. Briscoes vs. Richards & Edwards - ***1/4
6. Austin Aries vs. Naomichi Marufuji - ***3/4
7. Age of The Fall vs. Kevin Steen, El Generico, & Necro Butcher - ***
8. Bryan Danielson vs. Jerry Lynn - ****
 
#3,651 ·
FIP Heatstroke '08

The Heartbreak Assassins vs. The British Lions
***

Mercedez Martinez vs. Lorelei Lee
**

FIP Florida Heritage Championship
Saul Rinauro (c) vs. Chris Jones
***1/4

Chasyn Rance vs. Shawn Osborne
*1/2

Austin Aries vs. Jason Blade
***

Weapons Match
Dark City Fight Club vs. Black Market
*1/2

Roderick Strong vs. Kenny King
***1/2

The Necro Butcher vs. Tyler Black
***1/2

FIP World Heavyweight Championship
Erick Stevens (c) vs. Go Shiozaki
****1/2​

Really great show. I may have overrated some stuff, underrated others, but still, it was an awesome show, very fun to watch, because it has a flow that no other has. ROH should learn from them. Shiozaki-Stevens could be a 2008 MOTY, too bad the DVD was released too late. Anyway, his best match on the US is here.
 
#3,652 ·
Ring of Honor - Final Battle 2006
1. Four Cornel Survival (**1/2)
2. Pearce vs Reyes (*1/2)
3. Whitmer/Cabana vs Jacobs/Albright (***)
4. The Briscoes vs Kings of Wrestling (***1/2)
5. Nigel vs Rave (***1/4)
6. Aries/Strong/Delirious vs CIMA/Shingo/Sydal (***3/4)
7. Bryan Danielson vs Homicide (****1/2)

Ring of Honor - Fifth Year Festival - NYC
1. Pelle vs Morishima (*)
2. Pearce vs Delirious (**)
3. Del Rey/Danger vs Thatcher/Haze (*1/2)
4. Four Way Fray (***)
5. Tables Are Legal (***1/2)
6. Tag Titles Match (***1/4)
7. The Briscoes vs Nigel/Cabana (***)
8. Morishima vs Joe (****)
9. ROH Title Match (***)
 
#3,653 ·
ROH All Star Extravanganza IV:

Kenny Omega vs. Rhett Titus - **
Erick Stevens vs. Chris Hero - ***
Kensuke Sasaki & Katsuhiko Nakajima vs. Brent Albright & Roderick Strong- ***1/2
Takeshi Morishima vs. Go Shiozaki - **1/2
Nigel McGuinness & Claudio Castagnoli vs. Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. The American Wolves - Three Way Elimination Tag Match) - ***
Austin Aries vs. Naomichi Marufuji- ***3/4
Jimmy Jacobs, Tyler Black, & Delirious vs. Kevin Steen, El Generico, & The Necro Butcher- ***
Bryan Danielson vs. Jerry Lynn - ****

Solid show, nothing really special but nothing really horrible either. One to pick up on the frequent ROH offers as an extra tbh.
 
#3,654 ·
CZW Open Book
EMO, Nui, Rob Tapp & Eric Jones vs. Jon Dahmer, Little Mondo, Tyler Veritas & LJ Cruz
Sabian vs. Adam Cole **+
GNC vs. Team AnDrew **½
Quick Carter Grey vs. Egotistico Fantastico ***½
Ruckus vs. B-Boy ***+
Last Man Standing Match: Sami Callihan vs. Greg Excellent ***
Panes Of Glass & Barbed Wire Boards: H8 Club vs. Brain Damage & Deranged **½
Pinkie Sanchez vs. Ryan McBride ***3/4
Ladders & Scaffold Match: Devon Moore vs. Drake Younger ****

Overall best CZW long long time, really enjoy it!
 
#3,658 ·
Ring of Honor - Fifth Year Festival - Philly
1. Nigel vs TJ (*3/4)
2. Claudio vs Aries (**3/4)
3. Street Fight (***)
4. Steenerico vs The Briscoes (***1/4)
5. Joe vs Rave (***)
6. FIP Title Match (**)
7. ROH Tag Team Titles (***1/4)
8. ROH Title Match (**3/4)

Ring of Honor - Fifth Year Festival - Dayton
1. Nigel/Cabana vs Jacobs/Albright (**3/4)
2. Rave vs SJK (*1/2)
3. Lacey vs Haze (**)
4. 3 Way Match (***)
5. Open The Brave Gate Title Match (***)
6. Toland vs Franklin (1/2)
7. 6 Way Match (***1/2)
8. Joe vs Richards (***1/2)
9. Morishima vs Whitmer (**3/4)
 
#3,659 ·
All Star Extravaganza IV

Kenny Omega vs. Rhett Titus - **

Erick Stevens vs. Chris Hero - **3/4

Kensuke Sasaki & Katsuhiko Nakajima vs. Brent Albright & Roderick Strong - ***1/2 - ***3/4

Takeshi Morishima vs. Go Shiozaki - ***

Elimination Rules
Nigel McGuinness & Claudio Castagnoli vs. The Briscoes vs. The American Wolves (Davey Richards & Eddie Edwards) - ***

Austin Aries vs. Naomichi Marufuji - ***1/2 - ***3/4

Jimmy Jacobs, Tyler Black, & Delirious vs. Kevin Steen, El Generico, & Necro Butcher - ***1/4

Bryan Danielson vs. Jerry Lynn - ****




Final Battle 2008

Claudio Castagnoli vs. Kenny Omega - **

Four Corner Survival
Necro Butcher vs. Chris Hero vs. Jerry Lynn vs. Rhett Titus - **3/4

ROH World Tag Team Titles
Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Delirious - ***

NYC Come-As-You-Are Street Fight
Brent Albright, Roderick Strong, & Erick Stevens vs. Davey Richards, Eddie Edwards, & Go Shiozaki - ***1/2

International Dream Tag Team Match
Kensuke Sasaki & Katsuhiko Nakajima vs. Jay & Mark Briscoe - ***1/2

#1 Contender’s Match
Austin Aries vs. Tyler Black - ***1/2

ROH World Title
Nigel McGuinness vs. Naomichi Marufuji - ***3/4

Fight Without Honor
Takeshi Morishima vs. Bryan Danielson - **** - ****1/4


Final Battle 08 is the better show but both shows are better than the last three or four shows released. Just seemed like people were holding back on ASE IV (Looking at you Morishima.)
 
#3,660 ·
Ring of Honor - Fifth Year Festival - Chicago
1. Brent Albright vs Claudio Castagnoli (**1/2)
2. Sara Del Ray & Allison Danger vs MsChif & Serena Deeb (**)
3. Four Corner Survival (**1/4)
4. Rave vs Whitmer (**)
5. Daniels/Sydal vs The Briscoes (***3/4)
6. NRC vs Resilience (**3/4)
7. Windy City Death Match (***3/4)
8. Morishima/Nigel vs Joe/Homicide (***)

Ring of Honor - Fifth Year Festival - Liverpool
1. Davey Richards vs Homicide (***)
2. Sara Del Rey vs Allison Danger (**)
3. Rave/Jacobs vs Whitmer/Cabana (**3/4)
4. Delirious vs Matt Sydal (***1/2)
5. Roderick Strong vs PAC (***3/4)
6. The Briscoes vs Doi/Shingo (****)
7. Samoa Joe vs Nigel McGuiness (***1/2)

Ring of Honor - Fifth Year Festival - Finale
1. Delirious vs Colt Cabana (**1/2)
2. Jetta/Eden Black vs Del Rey/Danger (*3/4)
3. Falls Count Anywhere (***1/2)
4. PAC vs Matt Sydal (***)
5. Jay Briscoe vs Mark Briscoe (***3/4)
6. ROH Tag Titles (***1/2)
7. Fight Without Honor (***3/4)
8. Samoa Joe vs Homicide (***1/2)
 
#3,661 ·
Guys, help me out.

I am waiting til the next ROH buy 3 get 2 free sale and I've picked out 4 DVDs so far.
I've visited the star ratings thread and I can't decide which of these shows to get.

Rising Above 08 (Saw it on PPV and think it is great)

Death before Dishonor V:Night 1 (Saw the Boston Street Fight, so if I'm watching this, I am going to only be expecting the World Title match to deliver)

Death before Dishonor V: Night 2

Honor Nation (Saw Aries/Danielson & the Main Event)

Gut Check

Bound by Hate

New Horizons (Saw the PPV, but I was dumb and missed the last 2matches)

Vendetta II

Final Battle 07 (Hesitant on this one because of the reviews saying the crowd was not very hot.)

Tokyo Summit

Alright there are my possible buys, so pick one out for me and convince me why it is better than the others. For the ones I've seen entirely or some matches, just tell me if the rest of the card is a compliment to the matches.
 
#3,662 ·
Both Bound By Hate and Vendetta II are great shows with great matches in the Aries/Jacobs feud. If you like their fued, both shows are worth a buy.

Tokyo Summit is a great show too, with two awesome matches (Dragon/Kanemaru, NOAH Tag) and a different feel than normal ROH crowds.

Death Before Dishonor V: Night 2 is one of my personal favorite DVDs. I love the main, Morishima/Albright, Quack/Dragon, and the gimmick singles matches between The Briscoes and Steenerico. It's VERY dated, but it's still one of my favorites.
 
#3,665 ·
If you're OK getting an older show, DBD5:N2 is my favorite of the bunch.

If you want something current, Bound By Hate.

Favorites of those you listed:
1. Death Before Dishonor V: Night 2
2. Bound By Hate
3. Rising Above 2008
4. Tokyo Summit
5. Vendetta II

Hope that was more clear.
 
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