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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
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Also worth noting, that set is a mere $30, shipping included (overseas adds $5) Best deal around imo.
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04-18-2008, 02:54 PM
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
Everyone should check out the following, that has just been posted in the media section -
IWGP Heavyweight Title: Shinsuke Nakamura (c) vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi
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04-18-2008, 03:24 PM
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
Yeah I'd also be interested in that comp, $30 is a steal for all that material. Where can it be found?
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04-18-2008, 05:15 PM
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
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Joe/Angle is up there Misawa/Kobashi and Kobashi/Kawada matches?
What kind of bullshit is this?
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I gave my reasons and I stand by everything I wrote 100%. The match was awesome live though at times it was hard to see with people standing up in front of me. Despite that I loved every second of it. On video it was even better. I loved that match so much I'm going to watch it again later tonight. I have to watch some of the Misawa/Kobashi and Kobashi/Kawada classics to really gauge against them because Joe/Angle V is fresh in my mind and those I haven't watched in a while, but I'll probably watch Joe/Angle at least 2 or 3 more times this weekend alone. It was that good. Everything was perfect right down to Karen - "Don't ****** touch me! Don't you ****** put a hand on me!" So awesome!
But hey I forgot, it's not ROH or puro so it can't possibly be *****. What was I thinking 
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04-18-2008, 05:28 PM
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
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But hey I forgot, it's not ROH or puro so it can't possibly be *****. What was I thinking |
Fantastic logic. I'm completely speechless.
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04-18-2008, 07:57 PM
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
Not much these days besides ROH or puro reaches ***** these days. Mexico has some good stuff occasionally, but TNA has been on a down hill slide for some time. The last enjoyable fued I saw was AJ and Daniels vs. LAX.
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04-18-2008, 08:07 PM
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
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Not much these days besides ROH or puro reaches ***** these days. Mexico has some good stuff occasionally, but TNA has been on a down hill slide for some time. The last enjoyable fued I saw was AJ and Daniels vs. LAX.
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Nothing in TNA has come close since Joe vs. Angle 2, and before that, Joe vs. Daniels vs. Styles (which was 5 imo)
As for WWE, are you kidding? Cena put on a string of **** - **** 3/4 matches last year that are noteworthy. A lot of people thought Cena vs. HBK from England was close to 5 (I personally didn't since I thought their match at WM 23 was better and closer to 5 stars than anything that year). There are more I could mention, but I'm sure someone will have a better argument than me (and -Mystery- will rag on me for being a hypocrite :P)
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04-18-2008, 09:02 PM
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Well it also depends on what you consider "close" to 5*, if you mean ****3/4-***** then yeah I would agree.
But I would say Joe/Styles from TP 05 was probably 5* too, atleast ****3/4 and that match happened after the Unbreakable 3 way.
It's kinda crazy that from Dec 04-Dec 05 they had 5 matches that were atleast ****3/4 IMO and since then maybe they've had one.(Joe/Angle 2, but I actually only gave it ****1/2 but I could see giving it the other 1/4*)
Also tho, I really don't think the WWE has really had anything close in the last few years either. The last E match I would give atleast ****3/4 is Angle/HBK from WM 21.
Both companies had numerous ****1/4-****1/2 matches in 06/07, but neither has had one higher since 05 IMO.
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04-19-2008, 12:07 AM
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
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Yeah I'd also be interested in that comp, $30 is a steal for all that material. Where can it be found?
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But hey I forgot, it's not ROH or puro so it can't possibly be *****. What was I thinking |
a) That has nothing to do with anything.
b) Your opinion is your opinion, however, I and many others found Angle vs. Joe somewhat generally lacking, and your reasoning basically amounted to "The moves were well executed and heat was off the charts" which doesn't really amount to a ***** match. If you can tell me what kind of story you thought they told, I might believe ya.
c) Puro amounts to about a dozen plus odd feds, and really there aren't that many more ***** matches out of all of them than there are out of the combined American feds.
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04-19-2008, 12:37 AM
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
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b) Your opinion is your opinion, however, I and many others found Angle vs. Joe somewhat generally lacking, and your reasoning basically amounted to "The moves were well executed and heat was off the charts" which doesn't really amount to a ***** match. If you can tell me what kind of story you thought they told, I might believe ya.
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In your opinion it doesn't amount to a ***** match. I have my own standards. Story can be very overrated IMHO. If the story helps me enjoy the match then great, but it's not essential for me. The bottom line for me is how much did I enjoy the match? Answer: I enjoyed it immensely. However since you want story, here you go: The ground and pound specialist with Jiu-Jitsu skills versus the wrestler. Joe's struggle to overcome the world-class amateur wrestling pedigree of the hardened champion and impose his will despite the superior ground control of his opponent under the most dire of circumstances, with his very career on the line. There is a part near the end of the match where a worn down Joe stumbles into a corner seemingly over matched and totally spent. Kurt charges in for the kill and Joe steps out of the corner and hits a desperation one armed ST Joe with pain written all over his face and stumbling on the injured leg as he struggles to overcome the odds. That sequence was such a beautiful microcosm of the match as a whole.
One of the greatest testaments to the greatness of this match is that going into it I (and everybody else) knew full well that Joe would win. 100%, no doubt. Despite that there were points in the match that had me truly feeling like Angle would win. This is the type of match that I will remember 10 years from now and cherish the memory of having been there. I loved it that much. One of the greatest matches I have ever seen, period.
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