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Old 04-18-2008, 12:15 PM   #771 (permalink)
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Sorry but to say Joe/Angle rivals Misawa/Kobashi is....insane.

Also, I'm not sure how a match can be perfect when people (even those who liked the match) have pointed out the selling flaws in the match.
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Sorry but to say Joe/Angle rivals Misawa/Kobashi is....insane.

Also, I'm not sure how a match can be perfect when people (even those who liked the match) have pointed out the selling flaws in the match.
To be fair he saw it live. Match live usually seem better than they really are.
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I'm curious as to what is on that comp, you got a link to the match listing? But yeah no Go/Danielson is a little sad, one of the better matches last year i've seen.
Ehh, I have Go vs. Danielson on a personal comp I made for myself anyway.

Huh. It's only 7 discs (6 plus bonus) Dunno why I thought it was 8.

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Sasaki, Kobayashi, Shadow WX & MASADA vs. Teioh, Kasai, Numazawa & Miyamoto (Big Japan 1/2/07) - ****1/4
This starts out as a crazy, weapons filled brawl then somehow turns into a stiff hatefest. It’s an amazingly well structured match filled with cringe inducing spots, violence, consistant selling, and an absolutely incredible closing stretch. It does, however, still suffer from many flaws inherent in this type of match, particularly the escalation leading to nearfalls that, by all rights, should have been finishes. Still...for a non-stop fun rollercoaster of violence you can’t go much better. I’ve heard Big Japan had a great 2007, and this was a great start to that.

Mistico vs. El Averno (CMLL 1/5/07) - ***1/4
This is going to be an eternal problem for me, because I’m really not that hot on Lucha in general. The match started okay, with Averno heeling it big time with a vicious attack and dominating him to hit three Angel’s Wings and quickly take the first fall. The second fall was just as quick, and Mistico tied it up with a rollup. The third fall, however, was a hugely mixed bag. On one hand, they brought the hate and had a really good, long match that built off the first two falls. On the other hand, it ran a bit too long, and had some serious logic gaps (Averno only went for the Angel’s Wings ONCE despite it winning the first fall for him), and an anticlimactic finish to top it off. All in all, it was a good match, but nothing I’m dying to watch again and not an MOTYC for me.

Briscoe Brothers vs. Marvin & Suzuki (NOAH 1/21/07)
Freelance vs. Avisman (IWRG 1/21/07)
MNM vs. The Hardy Boyz (Rumble 1/28/07)
John Cena vs. Umaga (Rumble 1/28/07)
Gran Apache vs. Billy Boy (Bull Terrier match) (AAA 2/9/07)
Mistico vs. Black Warrior (CMLL 2/11/07)
Samoa Joe vs. Takeshi Morishima (ROH 2/16/07)

Disc 2

Shuji Kondo vs. Katsuhiko Nakajima (AJPW 2/17/07)
Nigel McGuinness vs. Samoa Joe (ROH 3/3/07)
Jimmy Jacobs vs. B.J. Whitmer (Falls Count Anywhere Match) (ROH 3/4/07)
Gran Apache vs. Billy Boy (Street fight) (AAA 3/10/07)
Takashi Sasaki vs. Yuki Miyamoto (Big Japan 3/14/07)
Samoa Joe vs. Eddie Kingston (FSM 3/17/07)
Jimmy Jacobs vs. B.J. Whitmer (Cage Match) (ROH 3/31/07)
CIMA, Susumu Yokosuka & Shingo vs. Dragon Kid, Ryo Saito & Masaaki Mochizuki (ROH 3/31/07)
John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels (WM 4/1/07)

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Undertaker vs. Batista (WM 4/1/07)
Eddie Kingston vs. Chris Hero (Loser Leaves Town) (CZW 4/7/07)
Yuji Nagata vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi (NJ 4/13/07)
Nigel McGuinness vs. Takeshi Morishima (ROH 4/14/07)
Akiyama & Rikio vs. Takayama & Sugiura (NOAH 4/28/07)
John Cena vs. HBK vs. Edge vs. Randy Orton (Backlash 4/29/07)
Ryuji Ito vs. Abdullah Kobayashi (Big Japan 4/30/07)
Dr. Wagner Jr. & Negro Casas vs. Hirooki Goto & Jushin Liger (Toryumon Mexico 5/12/07)
Chris Harris vs. James Storm (Texas Death Match) (Sacrifice 5/13/07)

Disc 4

John Cena vs. Great Khali (Judgment Day 5/20/07)
Chris Hero vs. Mike Quackenbush (Chikara 5/26/07)
Muscle Outlaw'z vs. Typhoon vs. New Hazard (DG 6/5/07)
King of the Mountain (Slammiversary 6/17/07)
Nigel McGuinness vs. Bryan Danielson (ROH PPV 6/23/07)
Minoru Suzuki vs. Keiji Mutoh (AJ 7/1/07)
KENTA & Ishimori vs. Ibushi & Marufuji (NOAH 7/15/07)
John Cena vs. Bobby Lashley (GAB 7/22/07)
Mistico vs. Dr. Wagner Jr. (CMLL 7/27/07)

Disc 5

Briscoe Brothers vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico (Boston Street Fight) (ROH 8/10/07)
Bryan Danielson vs. Takeshi Morishima (ROH 8/25/07)
John Cena vs. Randy Orton (Summerslam 8/26/07)
Briscoe Brothers vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico (Ladder Match) (ROH 9/15/07)
Mask or Hair Cage Match (CMLL 9/28/07)
Eddie Kingston vs. Chris Hero (Last Man Standing) (IWA-MS 9/29/07)
Randy Orton vs. Triple H (Last Man Standing) (No Mercy 10/6/07)
Umaga vs. Triple H (Street Fight) (Sunday 10/28/07)

Disc 6

Undertaker vs. Batista (Sunday 10/28/07)
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Hirooki Goto (New Japan 11/11/07)
Kaz vs. Christian Cage (Ladder Match) (Genesis 11/11/07)
Bryan Danielson vs. Takeshi Morishima (ROH 11/3/07)
Undertaker vs. Batista (Hell in a Cell) (Series 11/17/07)
Misawa & Akiyama vs. Kobashi & Takayama (NOAH 12/2/07)
Takashi Sasaki vs. Yuki Miyamoto (Big Japan 12/14/07)
Nigel McGuinness vs. Austin Aries (ROH 12/29/07)

Disc 7 (bonus disc, TV matches)

Finlay vs. Undertaker (SD! 3/9/07)
John Cena vs. HBK (RAW 4/23/07)
Chris Harris vs. James Storm (Impact 6/7/07)
Finlay vs. Matt Hardy (SD! 6/22/07)
CM Punk vs. John Morrison (ECW 9/4/07)
Finlay vs. Rey Mysterio (SD! 11/9/07)
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Cena had a pretty awesome year in 2007 to be fair, only rivaled and surpassed by Tanahashi IMO.

UD just for shits and giggles i'm curious what you thought the MOTY was last year out of what you have seen. Personally I thought it was Tanahashi/Nagata from 4/13. So much love for that match.

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Cena had a pretty awesome year in 2007 to be fair, only rivaled and surpassed by Tanahashi IMO.

UD just for shits and giggles i'm curious what you thought the MOTY was last year out of what you have seen. Personally I thought it was Tanahashi/Nagata from 4/13. So much love for that match.



Oh Shit WAGNER/MISTICO!!!!! Must see!
Tana vs. Nagata was in the ****1/2 range for me. My current pick for MOTY is Cena vs. Michaels from Mania at ****3/4, slightly tailed by Kobashi's return match, at a slightly lower ****3/4.

Also worth noting, that set is a mere $30, shipping included (overseas adds $5) Best deal around imo.
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heh, the crowd is awesome in this match if it's the one i'm thinking of. it's almost Cena levels of hate

men are like 100% Wagner and the kids and women are 100% Mistico. then by the end it's like 90% for Wagner
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Tana vs. Nagata was in the ****1/2 range for me. My current pick for MOTY is Cena vs. Michaels from Mania at ****3/4, slightly tailed by Kobashi's return match, at a slightly lower ****3/4.
Fair enough as both are excellent matches as well.

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heh, the crowd is awesome in this match if it's the one i'm thinking of. it's almost Cena levels of hate

men are like 100% Wagner and the kids and women are 100% Mistico. then by the end it's like 90% for Wagner
I've only seen like 6 matches of Wagner Jr. since I don't follow Lucha but man I love that guy, I really think I need to look this up now.
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Joe/Angle is up there Misawa/Kobashi and Kobashi/Kawada matches?

What kind of bullshit is this?
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