[M.W.]

Originally Posted by Taroostyles

So wrestling fans always complain about promotions never trying something new, and now they do(performed quite well might I add) and some people still shit all over it.

A match that wasn't a spotfest, told an unbelieveable story, and had the best build of any American match in years and people are mad cause the match wasn't "brutal" enough. Gimme a break.

Typically Fickle IWC.

Don't take me for granted by classifying me in that group of wrestling fans. When did I come near mentioning anything to do with 'brutality'? That best build in years statement you made is laughable, quite honestly. I wont even go about rectifying it.

Ratings are subjective as are opinions. No matter how much you make an effort to convey the brilliance of the match live, I wont ever be as fond of it as you are.

For fuck's sake, what happened to the days when you can post an opinion without being identified and labeled a dense, brain-dead wrestling fan?

[-Mystery-]

My comment about the brutality of the match has been misunderstood. I was saying that they should've built the match up to big fight, a brutal brawl because in my opinion, that would've added so much more emotion to the match which I felt was missing. I mean how great would it have been to have Angle bloody and beat down Joe then Joe makes the roaring comeback and fights through the blood loss to win his first World Title. That's great, raw emotion which I felt the match lacked greatly.

[Benjo™]

**** for Joe/Angle V for me.

I wasn't a fan of the MMA style at the beginning, got better towards the end though.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by -Blaskonio Inoki-

I'm starting to wonder that people are giving this match high ratings because of Joe winning the title.

Joe was pretty darn sloppy through that match. being honest.

No, I bumped it up 2 stars because you could hear Karen Angle yell "GET YOUR FUCKING HANDS OFF ME....DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ME" at a security grunt

[T-C]

Just watched the Angle/Joe match and I don't get it. They start off by working almost U-Style, a bad attempt at it too, but then just forget about it completely and throw it away amking me wonder what was the point in it in the first place. Then do some moves and start the usual finishing stretch in an Angle match, you do your move then I'll reverse it into one of my finishers that mean fuck all.

The one bit in the match that made me mark a little was when Joe just thought "fuck this shit" and threw Angle into the cage after Angle's antics with the ref.

Frank Trigg was tremendous on commentary.

It sucks to see what Joe has become. He was utter shit against Misawa who was doing everything to try and make Joe look great. Both people in the match have deteriorated beyond belief.

[-Blaskohiro Tenryu-]

Originally Posted by T-C

Just watched the Angle/Joe match and I don't get it. They start off by working almost U-Style, a bad attempt at it too, but then just forget about it completely and throw it away amking me wonder what was the point in it in the first place. Then do some moves and start the usual finishing stretch in an Angle match, you do your move then I'll reverse it into one of my finishers that mean fuck all.

Agreed, like the little fucking sheep I am.

[Leonardo LunchBoX]

Originally Posted by M.W.

Don't take me for granted by classifying me in that group of wrestling fans. When did I come near mentioning anything to do with 'brutality'? That best build in years statement you made is laughable, quite honestly. I wont even go about rectifying it.

Ratings are subjective as are opinions. No matter how much you make an effort to convey the brilliance of the match live, I wont ever be as fond of it as you are.

For fuck's sake, what happened to the days when you can post an opinion without being identified and labeled a dense, brain-dead wrestling fan?

Those days are long gone.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

No, I bumped it up 2 stars because you could hear Karen Angle yell "GET YOUR FUCKING HANDS OFF ME....DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ME" at a security grunt

I loled at that.


My whole point is that the match took place in a cage. They had a feud. Usually when giving the chance to destroy someone you hate with legal weapons your gonna take that chance a la Jimmy Jacobs and BJ Whitmer. This match should have been a big spots and had some sick brawl elements. Its what ive come to expect of steel cage matches. If they didn't want to go with a brutal match they should have held off on the match till the next PPV cause despite how hard i try i can't help but see that giant cage surrounding the cage.

[Taroostyles]

Originally Posted by McQueen

U-style isn't new.

Damn TNA for making me actually want to watch one of their matches.

Well for American Mainstream(WWE/TNA) it is, or atleast not done very often.

Originally Posted by M.W.

Don't take me for granted by classifying me in that group of wrestling fans. When did I come near mentioning anything to do with 'brutality'? That best build in years statement you made is laughable, quite honestly. I wont even go about rectifying it.

Ratings are subjective as are opinions. No matter how much you make an effort to convey the brilliance of the match live, I wont ever be as fond of it as you are.

For fuck's sake, what happened to the days when you can post an opinion without being identified and labeled a dense, brain-dead wrestling fan?

First of all, the comment wasn't directed specifically at you. In fact, you pretty much said you didn't like it cause of the MMA stuf for the most part, which I said was a good enough reason in my next post.

My comment was more at the people talking about the brutality or the crowd as reasons for not liking it.

You just happened to be the post directly before mine, sorry if that seemed like an attack on you personally. It wasn't meant to be at all.

As far as the comment about the best build, there are knowledgeable wrestling writers who actually said that right after the match ended. So I'm not the only one on that boat, not exactly laughable like you claim it to be.

Also, people who don't watch Impact regularly and only saw the actual match, aren't gonna appreciate it as much as people who followed the entire build.(That's why the match made so much sense)

If they had gone out and wrestled a brawl or a bloodbath, it would have completely contradicted everything they did before the match actually happened.

[M.W.]

Originally Posted by Taroostyles

Well for American Mainstream(WWE/TNA) it is, or atleast not done very often.



First of all, the comment wasn't directed specifically at you. In fact, you pretty much said you didn't like it cause of the MMA stuf for the most part, which I said was a good enough reason in my next post.

My comment was more at the people talking about the brutality or the crowd as reasons for not liking it.

You just happened to be the post directly before mine, sorry if that seemed like an attack on you personally. It wasn't meant to be at all.

As far as the comment about the best build, there are knowledgeable wrestling writers who actually said that right after the match ended. So I'm not the only one on that boat, not exactly laughable like you claim it to be.

Also, people who don't watch Impact regularly and only saw the actual match, aren't gonna appreciate it as much as people who followed the entire build.(That's why the match made so much sense)

If they had gone out and wrestled a brawl or a bloodbath, it would have completely contradicted everything they did before the match actually happened.

I never once said I hated the match because of the MMA, there wasn't much substance in the match itself, in my eyes. Just because that's the only thing I cared to comment on doesn't necessarily mean it's the only aspect of the match that I couldn't tolerate.

Don't care to comment on the other stuff; it's your opinion and you have the right to interpret it. I saw it differently and that's just what it comes down to.

All is fine, sorry for defending myself in the manner I went about doing so.

[Taroostyles]

Originally Posted by M.W.

I never once said I hated the match because of the MMA, there wasn't much substance in the match itself, in my eyes. Just because that's the only thing I cared to comment on doesn't necessarily mean it's the only aspect of the match that I couldn't tolerate.

Don't care to comment on the other stuff; it's your opinion and you have the right to interpret it. I saw it differently and that's just what it comes down to.

All is fine, sorry for defending myself in the manner I went about doing so.

It's all good man, you don't have to be sorry. You thought I was attacking you, it was justifiable but it was just a mix up, no biggie.

People just happen to have vastly different opinions on this match, it atleast makes for good conversation for the most part.