[PulseGlazer]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

well people are mentioning some matches at **** and we're just trying to put some perspective on it. like i mentioned the 3 way opener from Destination X is ** because people have been saying it's **** - **** 1/2.

besides, who fucking cares. don't be such a bitch about it Aaron. it's not like people go back in this thread and check shit out anyways.

I've gone back to check. And I was referring to the Raw matches which no one had at **** but still got 5 or 6 posts.

And I go back and read through.

[Taroostyles]

Basically, sometimes people post matches that they think are ****+, and then it leads to other people posting their own ratings that are less than ****+.(Therefore, claiming it wasn't a MOTYC.)

I don't come into this thread and mention a match unlesss I'm positive I feel it's ****+. But sometimes people just comment when they don't agree that a match is as good as other people thought it was.(The RAW matches this week for instance)

[- Styles -]

Decided to check out Mcguiness/Aries since everybody was saying it was so great. Really intense throughout, the spots were sick, including Nigel hitting the rail and the springboard lariat wow... Really exciting finish as well.

Final rating from me: ****1/4

Anyone know if Mcguiness got a legit concussion from the rail shot? If not, he sold it pretty damn well.

[Benjo™]

Yeah it was a legit concussion as well as a broken nose.

[KillSteve]

I havent been able to watch much recent ROH stuff as of late, and nothing I've seen from Japan or Mexico has struck me as MOTY calbre (yet). People seem to be VASTLY overating the Cage/Angle matches if you ask me.

So far we havent had anything special, but I would say Umaga/Hardy cage match, the RAW Elimination Chamber, or maybe even Orton/Hardy at. Oh yeah, and the Royal Rumble was pretty decnent this year, especially when ti got down to the final few.

[geesey38]

chalk one more to the aries/nigel match.

[Taroostyles]

Originally Posted by KillSteve

I havent been able to watch much recent ROH stuff as of late, and nothing I've seen from Japan or Mexico has struck me as MOTY calbre (yet). People seem to be VASTLY overating the Cage/Angle matches if you ask me.

So far we havent had anything special, but I would say Umaga/Hardy cage match, the RAW Elimination Chamber, or maybe even Orton/Hardy at. Oh yeah, and the Royal Rumble was pretty decnent this year, especially when ti got down to the final few.

I don't really think people are overrating the Angle/Cage matches at all, the 2 ppv matches were both awesome but had dissapointing finishes.(The 3rd match wasn't quite as good but it had a clean/better finish, so it's a toss up I suppose)

As far the WWE goes, I think Hardy/Michaels and the RAW EC are the best 2 matches they've put on this year, both the Royal Rumble and Umaga/Hardy don't go over ***1/2 for me.

I haven't seen Aries/Nigel but it sounds really good and apparently the best match so far this year, so I need to check it out.

[McQueen]

Aries/Nigel was from last year technically. In my book that disqualifies it.

This is why people shouldn't pick a MOTY till March or so once everything major is available. Maybe it's just me and TheUnholyDragon who think so.

[PulseGlazer]

Originally Posted by McQueen

Aries/Nigel was from last year technically. In my book that disqualifies it.

This is why people shouldn't pick a MOTY till March or so once everything major is available. Maybe it's just me and TheUnholyDragon who think so.

Like it or not, most of the IWC takes its cue for this sort of thing from Meltz, and this is what he does.

[GP_Punk]

i think that's a detail really...we define the year as we like and it's much simpler to define each match's date as simply the time it goes public (if it does).
Gets rid of a lot of potential confusion for those of us who can't even recall what they had for diner two hours ago (...think it was a sandwich).