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Old 10-06-2008, 12:40 AM   #2221 (permalink)
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Anybody who didn't get the ending to HHH vs. Jeff is, to put it nicely, a dipshit. The ending meant that as great as Jeff is, HHH is just that tad bit much better than him. It means that Jeff is coming closer and closer to reaching the brass ring, but he's just not quite there yet. In addition, with all the abuse Jeff's body took during the match, it only made sense for HHH to win. He has proven that he has the endurance, he has the stamina, and he's a smarter wrestler than Jeff is at this time.

One day, Jeff Hardy will be WWE or World champion. Tonight did more to get him over than his previous shot did back in January.
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^I get the finish, but in the context of the match itself it was totally illogical.
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Anybody who didn't get the ending to HHH vs. Jeff is, to put it nicely, a dipshit. The ending meant that as great as Jeff is, HHH is just that tad bit much better than him. It means that Jeff is coming closer and closer to reaching the brass ring, but he's just not quite there yet. In addition, with all the abuse Jeff's body took during the match, it only made sense for HHH to win. He has proven that he has the endurance, he has the stamina, and he's a smarter wrestler than Jeff is at this time.

One day, Jeff Hardy will be WWE or World champion. Tonight did more to get him over than his previous shot did back in January.
Agreed. So many people in the discussion thread said the finish was horrible but I thought it was great given the context of the storyline and it made sense on more than one level. It really put over how close Jeff was that someone as dominant as Triple H would have to resort to a move like that to win. I think the problem most people had was that H had just been hit by the Twist of Fate and the Swanton but I didn't think it was unrealistic because Jeff took some serious punishment in the match and was so exhausted that he wasn't able to turn over and hook the leg, thus allowing the experienced vet to sneak one.
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Not too mention that Hardy beat Johnny Nitro the EXACT same way a couple years ago.
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Triple H vs. Jeff Hardy - ****
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HHH vs. Hardy - ****

Jericho vs. HBK - ****1/4-1/2
WWE MOTY up to now imo (with honorary mention to HBK/Flair)


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  • Kengo Mashimo & Madoka Vs. MEN's Teioh & Shinobu (BJW 23/5/08) ****1/2-****3/4
  • Masato Tanaka vs. Daisuke Sekimoto (BJW 28/4/08) ****1/2
  • Austin Aries vs. Nigel McGuinness (ROH Rising Above) ****1/2
  • Daisuke Sekimoto & Yoshihito Sasaki vs. Takashi Sasaki & Yuko Miyamoto (BJW 2/1/08) ****1/2
  • Naruki Doi and Masato Yoshino vs. Shingo Takagi and BxB Hulk ****1/2
  • Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Hero (wXw 16 Carat Gold Tournament 2008) ****1/2
  • Austin Aries vs. Nigel McGuinness (ROH Supercard of Honor III) ****1/2
  • Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. Shingo Takagi and BxB Hulk (ROH Supercard of Honor III) ****1/2
  • Adam Pearce vs Brent Albright - NWA World Heavyweight Title Match(ROH Death Before Dishonor VI)****1/2
  • Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. Naruki Doi & Masato Yoshino (ROH DG Challenge II) ****1/2
  • Austin Aries & Bryan Danielson vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black (ROH Respect is Earned II) ****1/2
  • Nigel McGuinness vs. Tyler Black (ROH Take No Prisoners) ****1/2
  • Kenta Kobashi & KENTA vs. Kensuke Sasaki & Katsuhiko Nakajima (NOAH 14/6/08) ****1/2
  • Cage vs. Angle (TNA Against All Odds) ****1/2
  • Nigel McGuiness vs. Bryan Danielson (ROH World Title) (ROH 6th Anniversary Show) ****1/2
  • Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels (WWE No Mercy) ****1/4-****1/2
  • B.J. Whitmer vs. Jimmy Jacobs - "I Quit" Match (IWA-MS 500th Show) ****1/4-****1/2
  • Dragon Kid, CIMA & Ryo Saito vs. Horiguchi, Doi & Yoshino (ROH Supercard of Honor III) ****1/4-****1/2
  • Austin Aries vs. Go Shiozaki (ROH 6th Anniversary Show) ****1/4-****1/2
  • Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Takeshi Morishima (NOAH 3/2) ****1/4-****1/2
  • Erick Stevens vs. Roderick Strong (FIP Redefined) ****1/4-****1/2
  • Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe (TNA Lockdown) ****1/4
  • Austin Aries vs. Bryan Danielson (ROH Take No Prisoners) ****1/4
  • BxB Hulk and Shingo Takagi vs. KENTA and Taiji Ishimori (Dragon Gate - 20/03/08) ****1/4
  • Roderick Strong vs. Erick Stevens (ROH Respect is Earned II) ****1/4
  • Undertaker vs. Edge (WrestleMania 24) ****1/4
  • Briscoes vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black (Final Battle 2007) ****1/4
  • Bryan Danielson vs. Mike Quackenbush (wXw 16 Carat Gold Tournament 2008) ****1/4
  • A.J. Styles vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi (NJPW 2/17) ****1/4
  • CIMA vs Masato Yoshino (Dragon Gate - 20/3/2008) ****1/4
  • Masato Tanaka vs. Daisuke Sekimoto (ZERO1-MAX Genesis '08) ****-****1/4
  • Raw Elimination Chamber (No Way Out) ****-****1/4
  • ΒχΒ Ηulk & Shingo vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black (ROH DG Challenge II) ****-****1/4
  • The Briscoe Brother vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black (ROH Supercard of Honor III) ****-****1/4
  • Roderick Strong vs. Erick Stevens (ROH Supercard of Honor III) ****-****1/4
  • Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Hero vs. Morishima vs. Austin Aries (Final Battle 2007) **** - ****1/4
  • B.J. Whitmer vs. Jimmy Jacobs - "No Ropes, Barbed Wire" Match (IWA-MS April Blood Showers) ****-****1/4
  • Roderick Strong vs. Erick Stevens vs. Necro Butcher (FIP World Title) (ROH 6th Anniversary Show) ****
  • HHH vs. Jeff Hardy (WWE No Mercy) ****
  • The Undertaker vs. Edge (WWE One Night Stand) ****
  • Cage vs. Angle (TNA Final Resolution) ****
  • Motor City Machine Guns vs. Dick Togo & Hidaka Ikuto (ZERO1-MAX 1/1) ****
  • Νο Remorse Corps vs. Erick Stevens, Go Shiozaki & CIMA (ROH DG Challenge II) ****
  • Rock n Rave Infection vs. LΑX vs. Motor City Machine guns (Destination X) ****
  • Lethal Lockdown Match (TNA Lockdown) ****
  • Ric Flair vs. Shawn Michaels (WrestleMania 24) No rating - more than just a match
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Agreed. So many people in the discussion thread said the finish was horrible but I thought it was great given the context of the storyline and it made sense on more than one level. It really put over how close Jeff was that someone as dominant as Triple H would have to resort to a move like that to win. I think the problem most people had was that H had just been hit by the Twist of Fate and the Swanton but I didn't think it was unrealistic because Jeff took some serious punishment in the match and was so exhausted that he wasn't able to turn over and hook the leg, thus allowing the experienced vet to sneak one.
Yeah see that was my problem with it, just seemed too unrealistic to me. I couldn't care less about the people bitching about HHH burying people or whatever, I just had a hard time buying exactly what you said about the TOF and the Swanton.

However I didn't notice that Jeff didn't hook the leg, that makes it a little better than what I previously had thought.

Even still, I didn't even lower my rating because of it and at first I really hated the finish. Usually if I hate a finish that much I'll lower it, but that match was fan fucking tastic as far as I'm concerned.

Hardy's best singles match and one of HHH's better ones in recent memory, he did play the veteran champion to a tee.
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