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07-16-2008, 04:55 AM
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MUTA
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
Are you saying CIMA's biggest fault is that he isn't Milano Collection AT?
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07-16-2008, 05:07 AM
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Triple Crown Champion
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
That's everyone's biggest fault really.
But in all seriousness out of the DG CIMA matches I have seen, he's been rather underwhelming.
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07-16-2008, 05:30 AM
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
The only thing you need to know is that Ryo Saito kicked out of three Schwein Redlines...yeah.
Nuff said.
Doi is the fucking man when it comes to singles tho.
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07-16-2008, 08:33 AM
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
opener from victory road was great, glad it got time aswell, yoshino is AWESOME!
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07-16-2008, 10:23 AM
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
Yeah the 12 man tag was just pretty much a spotfest, but it was a pretty damn incredible spotfest. Tons of spotfest matches get rated ****+ quite frequently and this match was definitely worthy of it IMO.
****1/4 for me.
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07-16-2008, 12:22 PM
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
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Originally Posted by McQueen
Why can't CIMA have good singles matches in Dragon Gate?
You know why? Because he's not Milano Collection AT.
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True that! Why can't Milano to DG for a while? That is a legit question. That guy is great. While I wouldn't want Yoshino to go YOSSINO on us and grow out his hair, it would make Mori useful.
As for CIMA I don't think he really ever has good matches, but rather just participates in them. I find him overal just bland and overrated. Really the only good match that he made good I can think of was the title defese against Yoshino.
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07-16-2008, 12:39 PM
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REDEMPTION
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
Just watched Danielson/Black from Souther Navigation. Great match
****1/4
Watching some TNA Victory Road matches as well now.
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07-16-2008, 02:56 PM
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
Danielson vs. Hero **** 3/4 - my Match of the Year so far.
Okay, Hero is all about proving he's the best wrestler in the world and Danielson doesn't really think he's much of a threat, choosing to mock Hero and the crowd instead. Brutal arm work changes that and Danielson ends up in trouble, but luckily Hero doesn't have great arm submissions in his arsenal and instead uses Danielson's Cattle Mutilation and Cross-face Chickenwing, both of which Danielson can counter.
Danielson, a but peeved at Hero and the crowd, knows Hero has a busted nose, so he just brutalizes that. Hero stays with his plan and keeps out counter-wrestling Danielson into the Hangmen's clutch. When Dragon escapes from that, he's pissed and begins striking Hero. He shows just how angry he gets at that when he busts out the Nigel style headbutts. That leads to Hero again showing he's superior, this time outstriking Danielson. With a mat advantage and a striking advantage, Danielson is in deep shit, so he gets really cheap for the win, which is built perfectly by how much of a dick he was the whole match.
And as for the arm selling complaint, Danielson grabbed it regularly, and he used his left arm, the hurt one, precisely once for a strike. I was fine with that. He sold enough to let us know it hurt without building sympathy for himself as a heel. Damn near perfect.
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07-16-2008, 02:59 PM
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
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Originally Posted by PulseGlazer
Danielson vs. Hero **** 3/4 - my Match of the Year so far.
Okay, Hero is all about proving he's the best wrestler in the world and Danielson doesn't really think he's much of a threat, choosing to mock Hero and the crowd instead. Brutal arm work changes that and Danielson ends up in trouble, but luckily Hero doesn't have great arm submissions in his arsenal and instead uses Danielson's Cattle Mutilation and Cross-face Chickenwing, both of which Danielson can counter.
Danielson, a but peeved at Hero and the crowd, knows Hero has a busted nose, so he just brutalizes that. Hero stays with his plan and keeps out counter-wrestling Danielson into the Hangmen's clutch. When Dragon escapes from that, he's pissed and begins striking Hero. He shows just how angry he gets at that when he busts out the Nigel style headbutts. That leads to Hero again showing he's superior, this time outstriking Danielson. With a mat advantage and a striking advantage, Danielson is in deep shit, so he gets really cheap for the win, which is built perfectly by how much of a dick he was the whole match.
And as for the arm selling complaint, Danielson grabbed it regularly, and he used his left arm, the hurt one, precisely once for a strike. I was fine with that. He sold enough to let us know it hurt without building sympathy for himself as a heel. Damn near perfect.
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07-16-2008, 03:12 PM
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REDEMPTION
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Re: The 2008 MOTYC Thread
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Feel I should check this out if it drops into the media section, what show was it?
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http://www.wrestlingforum.com/indy-m...arat-gold.html
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