[PulseGlazer]

Originally Posted by sirdilznik

Kurt Angle vs. AJ Styles - Slammiversary - ****1/4 - Great match. Some awesome sequences. Kurt tossing AJ around with suplexes. Styles Clash reversed into Ankle Lock. Ankle Lock reversed into a Roll-up. Super Olympic Slam goodness. Good flow, great energy. AJ with a bloody nose put the icing on the cake. It was missing that something special to put it over the top.

Lacking something special means not 4*! It's *** 1/2 - *** 3/4.

The entire match is based on counter-wrestling. Whoever got the bigger counter contolled, leaving a fun, but fairly shallow and unmemorable match. That was Kurt more often than not mixing awesome counters with cheap shots to good effect, while AJ's counters showed that he was resilient and could hit Kurt with big moves, ultimately, Kurt would have won due to his willingness to take the shortcut (which totally undermines AJ's developed character unfortunately), except that Karen involved herself enough to let AJ's athleticism be the deciding factor.

[sirdilznik]

Originally Posted by PulseGlazer

Lacking something special means not 4*! It's *** 1/2 - *** 3/4.

That's what it means to you, not me.

I thoroughly loved the match and it left a serious impression on me. Totally 4* worthy for me + 1/4* for the bloody nose. *shrug*

[McQueen]

Quarter Star for a bloody nose? Really?

[Taroostyles]

I don't agree with "shallow" and "unmemorable" as adjectives for that match.

[sirdilznik]

Originally Posted by McQueen

Quarter Star for a bloody nose? Really?

-Yes- (Needed at least 5 characters)

[Derek]

I'm sorry but, if a bloody nose gets 1/4*, then old school ECW and FMW matches would be 5 fucking stars.

[PulseGlazer]

Originally Posted by Taroostyles

I don't agree with "shallow" and "unmemorable" as adjectives for that match.

Shallow- based on straight counterwrestling with nothing deeper. No brawling vs. power or speed or anything else involved. No build to any move or any body psychology besides the Styles Clash beig set up a bit. No backstory playing in a way that made sense except for outside interference. Pointless Tomko being there at the start. Shallow.

Unmemorable- besides who was involved or the angle that lead to it, there is nothing that will make this match stand out in your memory in 6-months if you watch a lot of wrestling. When you look back, you'll know it happenned and maybe get an image or two, but it lacks the staying power of a classic except for the two points above. I watch and spend a stupid amount of time talking about wrestling, just trust me on this.

[McQueen]

Originally Posted by Derek

I'm sorry but, if a bloody nose gets 1/4*, then old school ECW and FMW matches would be 5 fucking stars.

And every Abdullah the Butcher match too.

[sirdilznik]

A bloody nose on it's own gets nothing. A bloody nose in that particular match got a 1/4* from me. What can I say? I liked it and it made the match even more enjoyable for me. I particularly liked watching it trickle down his face while in a submission and turn his teeth red. *shrug*

[Derek]

Originally Posted by McQueen

And every Abdullah the Butcher match too.

Well, Forks are awesome.