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With the news of Hojo and now Io from Stardom both going to WWE, there is a small silver lining for Stardom.... More people are checking them out now. I hadn't been watching them, but just bought a membership for their streaming service, Stardom World (pretty cheap), so they are already seeing some new interest from this publicity.

I imagine this is the upside for all of the promotions WWE takes stars from? New Japan have the same sort of bump from when they lose stars the same way?

I'd like to know what the rest of you think of Stardom. There's a lot for me to go through (will likely last me well over a month, so totally worth the sign up). So far I am finding it fun, funny, action packed, and also pretty damn sexy in its own sort of way.

And I am totally falling in love with Hojo, so she'll be a great babyface in NXT.

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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 05-17-2017, 06:59 AM
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I always say to myself "go check it out" but I never did actually watch Stardom. In fact, my only contact with Joshi is '90s AJW(y'know, when Dave used to give seven 5* ratings a week to them).

IMO, getting your stars stolen isn't exactly the best way of drawing attention. If one of your wrestlers signed with a bigger company that's because that wrestler is an important part of your company. Why would someone bother to watch if the best wrestlers are going elsewhere? Of course, they haven't lost everyone, but still.
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That never lasts long. People, if they're not gonna pretend to know who they are or seen their matches, are only gonna stick around to watch what the girls who are leaving are doing. When they're done and they're gone, they're not gonna care. At best guess, there's probably a few hundred that are gonna care to go check them out and even less getting Stardom World for it. Like the Act/Yoshiko shoot for example, some people saw a fight, got upset for a while, many didn't bat eyes at the promotion again until it's time to care about or ask "what is Act and that fat fucking pig Yoshiko doing these days?" a year later. That "exposure is gonna mean nothing in 2 months.
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I mean it's crazy to say this, but I'm a huge Stardom fan even know I don't have the Subscription to Stardom World. I have my ways, and hopefully people start uploading their product with the news of Io and Kairi coming to the WWE so I can finally see the Cinderella tourney and the Toni/Io Red Belt Championship Match sometime in the next month or so. I wish I could plug of Real Women of Genius thread of a tour of Joshi Wrestling in general that I do on another forum, it has tons of Stardom matches on there that I review and talk about. I mean if you want to see fall in love with Kairi Hojo more like I am with her, same with Io Shirai and Toni Storm watch this



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Stardom in the last year or two has been over saturated with gaijin talent IMO

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Stardom in the last year or two has been over saturated with gaijin talent IMO
I mean Stardom has always brought in new talent during their Cinderella and GP Tournaments especially with Gaijins. You need that, because it gets stale seeing the same match-ups every show. They are going to need fresh faces now with Kairi and Io gone now, and Toni might be gone too I expect to happen.


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I mean Stardom has always brought in new talent during their Cinderella and GP Tournaments especially with Gaijins. You need that, because it gets stale seeing the same match-ups every show. They are going to need fresh faces now with Kairi and Io gone now, and Toni might be gone too I expect to happen.
A stale looking card or stale looking promotion can still be stale even if workers are traded in and out like it's Blockbuster, WWE has proven that. And on the otherside, having the same workers for years with somewhat minimal change could see a product that isn't stale.

Stardom has been stale for way over a year no matter how much garbage(as smelly as that garbage is sometimes) they pull in and send out to then pull in more garbage and send out, repeat over and over again until you haven't had a legit straight up and down great card in a year and a half that has nothing to do with Sendai
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A stale looking card or stale looking promotion can still be stale even if workers are traded in and out like it's Blockbuster, WWE has proven that. And on the otherside, having the same workers for years with somewhat minimal change could see a product that isn't stale.

Stardom has been stale for way over a year no matter how much garbage(as smelly as that garbage is sometimes) they pull in and send out to then pull in more garbage and send out, repeat over and over again until you haven't had a legit straight up and down great card in a year and a half that has nothing to do with Sendai
I wouldn't say Stardom has been stale for over a year, maybe the last 6 months when Stardom was booking random Gaijin to come in to face Io Shirai, with no momentum just giving them title shots right off the bat. You take the good with the bad, and usually their shows are quality. They will be hurt greatly now with their top two best leaving, but remember they were surviving as a company before Mayu, Io and Kairi were even stars themselves back when they were rookies. Hopefully they can do it against with new talent like Konami, and they better lock her in.


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This show is hillarious. I am watching a standard Stardom show from July, 2011. They have a battle royal at the end that is the funniest thing I've ever seen in wrestling. Not only do they have a 8 or 9 year old child fighting in it, but they have moments where one girl goes down to get pinned and all the others pile on top of her, a chain of headlock scissors (or whatever that move is called) of like 10 women (and then of course they turn the whole thing over) and a tug of war over using said child as the rope.

Oh and Mayu is in the match being a goofball. Such versatility; she's the Black Lotus Triad (LU) member that didn't get signed by WWE. She can be a total badass or a total goofball. ALso saw Kenny Omega has a match with the same child in this match... so apparently Japanese stars don't mind doing some nutty stuff.

WTF am I watching? This plus the stuff in the Stardom extras section I looked through on their streaming service, which included 4 of the Stardom Stars teaching an exercise class, and I think I love this promotion. This is even crazier than Chikara, and I love Asian women so its damn sexy too.

I think this promotion is turning me onto Japanese wrestling, and I think I like it way more than the American stuff.

Plus the other matches... the more serious ones, are better than anything I've ever seen in WWE from even most of the men. IO, Kairi, Mayu, and many others here really are impressive.
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This show is hillarious. I am watching a standard Stardom show from July, 2011. They have a battle royal at the end that is the funniest thing I've ever seen in wrestling. Not only do they have a 8 or 9 year old child fighting in it, but they have moments where one girl goes down to get pinned and all the others pile on top of her, a chain of headlock scissors (or whatever that move is called) of like 10 women (and then of course they turn the whole thing over) and a tug of war over using said child as the rope.

Oh and Mayu is in the match being a goofball. Such versatility; she's the Black Lotus Triad (LU) member that didn't get signed by WWE. She can be a total badass or a total goofball. ALso saw Kenny Omega has a match with the same child in this match... so apparently Japanese stars don't mind doing some nutty stuff.

WTF am I watching? This plus the stuff in the Stardom extras section I looked through on their streaming service, which included 4 of the Stardom Stars teaching an exercise class, and I think I love this promotion. This is even crazier than Chikara, and I love Asian women so its damn sexy too.

I think this promotion is turning me onto Japanese wrestling, and I think I like it way more than the American stuff.

Plus the other matches... the more serious ones, are better than anything I've ever seen in WWE from even most of the men. IO, Kairi, Mayu, and many others here really are impressive.
Yeah that's Stardom for ya. They can give you great action and a comedy at the craziest times. I wonder the little girl you're talking about hmm could she be Azumi.


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