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07-23-2007, 03:26 AM
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Re: Official Indy DVD Help Thread
KENTA vs. Dragon III
The big question is, is this *****? I don't know. I definatly have to watch it again. But if you put a gun to my head, ask me right now, I say yes. I see nothing to add to it and no flaws (ya theres a bad botch, but honestly, who gives a fuck?). It's starts with some matwork, but not Dragon's kinda slow kinda boring title match matwork, really vicious work. The, it goes straight into big puro heavyweight match formula. Apron moves? Check. No sell suplex exchange? Check. Manly strike exchange? Check. I was sad they decided to go this way with the match, as their juniors, and it's less impressive when they do shit like copy Kobashi-Akiyama. BUT, they throw a whole new spin on it that I love and it completely makes the match and makes the puro stuff make sense. They add in the fact that they know each other inside out (makes sense, they've definatly worked each other probabnly 20 times by now). So they copy moves, know perfect counters, everything. its beautiful. And it ends perfectly, Dragon going for his killer (the elbows) and KENTA just being the better man and is able to hit his. Definate MOTY so far, and I say *****. Up in the media section now.
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07-23-2007, 03:29 AM
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Re: Official Indy DVD Help Thread
Thank you.
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07-23-2007, 03:40 AM
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Re: Official Indy DVD Help Thread
PaiMei, there is one key moment in that match that sticks out after rewatching it...
how sick did Danielson's Go To Sleep sound?! it sounded like he knocked KENTA's jaw off. i honestly don't remember hearing anything live.
also, it didn't come off well since the NOAH crew recorded it using their cameras, but the whole match builds to the moment when Danielson finally says "I'VE GOT TIL 5!" and that was sorely missed when i rewatched it. i can't wait to see that build when it's finally released on DVD. it didn't have any real significance in the match, but it was truly an awesome moment imo.
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07-23-2007, 03:48 AM
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Re: Official Indy DVD Help Thread
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PaiMei, there is one key moment in that match that sticks out after rewatching it...
how sick did Danielson's Go To Sleep sound?! it sounded like he knocked KENTA's jaw off. i honestly don't remember hearing anything live.
also, it didn't come off well since the NOAH crew recorded it using their cameras, but the whole match builds to the moment when Danielson finally says "I'VE GOT TIL 5!" and that was sorely missed when i rewatched it. i can't wait to see that build when it's finally released on DVD. it didn't have any real significance in the match, but it was truly an awesome moment imo.
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It sounded BRUTAAL. And THAT is how you do a fighting spirit sell. I remember when I criticised Marufuji's no-sell of Nigel's ToL at GBH and everyone was like "it's called fighting spirit DOOD don't you watch Japans??!11/?" KENTA did it perfect. Absorb it, wait, show your in pain, but fight through. Dragon gets over cause it looks brutal and KENTA sells it as such, and KENTA gets over for fighting through. And the "I have till 5" was there. It got a huge pop and a standing ovation.
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07-23-2007, 03:51 AM
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Re: Official Indy DVD Help Thread
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And the "I have till 5" was there. It got a huge pop and a standing ovation.
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i know, but the camera was focused on KENTA and didn't make it seem as important. i was just saying it's gonna come off better on the ROH release.
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07-23-2007, 04:32 AM
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Re: Official Indy DVD Help Thread
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also, it didn't come off well since the NOAH crew recorded it using their cameras, but the whole match builds to the moment when Danielson finally says "I'VE GOT TIL 5!" and that was sorely missed when i rewatched it.
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I marked out. Best "I've got till 5" ever
The match is immense. I need to watch it again before I rate it, but it looks like 5 on first view. As you said, I didn't like some of the camera angles, and the audio was a bit distorted.
I'm undecided on that botch. The move would of been fucking sick if he pulled it off, but it didn't really hurt the match for me.
That's about all I can say right now. This DVD needs to be released soon.
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07-23-2007, 08:11 AM
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Re: Official Indy DVD Help Thread
I like Stan Hansen so I just ordered all this off Buy The Match
Stan Hansen
Stan Hansen & Maunukea Mossman (Taiyo Kea) vs. Toshiaki Kawada & Genichiro Tenryu (7/23/00)
Stan Hansen & Akira Taue vs. Kenta Kobashi & Jun Akiyama (Real World Tag Tournament Finals) (12/3/99)
Stan Hansen & Steve Williams & Akira Taue vs. Takao Omori & Yoshihiro Takayama & Gary Albright (5/2/99)
Stan Hansen & Vader vs. Kenta Kobashi & Johnny Ace (5/1/98)
Stan Hansen & Ted DiBiase vs. Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue (Double Tag Titles) (9/3/93)
Stan Hansen vs. Kenta Kobashi (7/29/93)
Stan Hansen vs. Kenta Kobashi (3/27/92)
Stan Hansen & Joel Deaton vs. Mitsuharu Misawa & Toshiaki Kawada (1/26/92)
Stan Hansen vs. Tsuyoshi Kikuchi (1/24/92)
Stan Hansen & Joel Deaton vs. Jumbo Tsuruta & Akira Taue (1/15/92)
Stan Hansen vs. Akira Taue (1/10/92)
Stan Hansen & Andre the Giant vs. Giant Baba & Abdullah the Butcher (9/30/90)
Stan Hansen vs. Kenta Kobashi (7/7/90)
Stan Hansen & Genichiro Tenryu vs. Kenta Kobashi & Jumbo Tsuruta (7/15/89)
Stan Hansen & Terry Gordy vs. Dynamite Kid & Davey Boy Smith (6/5/89)
Stan Hansen & Terry Gordy vs. Toshiaki Kawada & Genichiro Tenryu (Real World Tag League Finals) (12/16/88)
Stan Hansen & Ted Dibiase vs. Davey Boy Smith & Dynamite Kid (11/23/85)
Stan Hansen & Terry Gordy vs. Terry Funk & Dory Funk Jr. (8/31/83)
Stan Hansen vs. Terry Funk (11/9/82)
Stan Hansen vs. The Destroyer (10/30/75)
Oh and I got that best of for that great Sasuke guy too. 
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07-23-2007, 11:58 AM
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Re: Official Indy DVD Help Thread
Stan Hansen vs. Kenta Kobashi (7/29/93)
My favorite brawl, *****, and the sickest finish in the history of pro wrestling.
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07-23-2007, 12:26 PM
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Re: Official Indy DVD Help Thread
ROH put TNA on the spot with the Reborn Again DVD. At the beginning of the DVD they mentioned that due to PPV, TNA pulled their talent from ROH. I thought it was interesting that it was put on the DVD.
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07-23-2007, 12:31 PM
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Re: Official Indy DVD Help Thread
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Stan Hansen vs. Kenta Kobashi (7/29/93)
My favorite brawl, *****, and the sickest finish in the history of pro wrestling.
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And I have it in my Megapost folks. Anyways that it was a fantastic match.
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