[McQueen]

Originally Posted by wwefanatic411

im not done watching dgc yet, but can you explain why you dont like reyes/collyer? im not usually a fan of either of them but this match really shocked me. i would give it a **3/4-***. it was very back and forth and everything just flowed perfectly imo. please explain

I haven't watched DGC for a long time like last may or so and I have a few different Reyes vs Collyer matches on tape so I just don't remember exactly what match that is at the moment, sorry about that. Anyways despite the fact the ratings don't look super impressive, 4 Year Anniversary is a really good show and well worth getting, the CZW segment in that show inbetween Daniels/Whitmer and Cabana/Homicide matches is really fun and works itself really well into the show and both Title matches were really good. My only complaint about 4YAS is I got the impression that Lethal somewhat blew off his match with Joe and didn't give a good effort but maybe thats just me.

[Obfuscation]

Originally Posted by McQueen

I haven't watched DGC for a long time like last may or so and I have a few different Reyes vs Collyer matches on tape so I just don't remember exactly what match that is at the moment, sorry about that. Anyways despite the fact the ratings don't look super impressive, 4 Year Anniversary is a really good show and well worth getting, the CZW segment in that show inbetween Daniels/Whitmer and Cabana/Homicide matches is really fun and works itself really well into the show and both Title matches were really good. My only complaint about 4YAS is I got the impression that Lethal somewhat blew off his match with Joe and didn't give a good effort but maybe thats just me.

Well after reading about the fued and then seeing your score made me think twice about the show, that was one of the main reasons I wanted it. Maybe because he didn't show up back in ROH untill ROHomicide and he was just a replacement.

[wwefanatic411]

Originally Posted by Hailsabin

Leave it to you to always help someone out

Now give me the ratings for 4th Anniversary show and Dragon's Gate Challenge!!!........... Please

I just finished watching Dragon Gate Challenge so here are my 2 cents if you want them:
Falls Count Anywhere Colt Cabana vs Homicide- **1/4
Chad Collyer vs Ricky Reyes- **3/4-***
Jimmy Jacobs vs BJ Whitmer- ***1/2-***3/4
Ryo Saito vs Jimmy Yang- ***1/4
Embassy vs Danielson + Delirious- ***1/4
Claudio Castignoli vs Shane Hagadorn- *
Dragon kid & Genki Horiguchi vs AJ Styles + Matt Sydal- ***1/2
Blood Generation vs Generation Next- ****1/4-****1/2
Christopher Daniels vs Samoa Joe- ***1/2

This is a great, must-see ROH show. You should definitly pick it up.

[Jack Evans 187]

Ok, every time I ask about IWA-MS DVDs, no one ever replies. So, if anyone can, can you tell me how any of these shows are:

HURT 2007
No Retreat, No Surrender
Necro/Joe II
Big Ass Christmas Bash 2005
Put Up or Shut Up 2005
No Blood No Guts No Glory 2005
Revenge Served Cold 05

[Thats_howIroll]

My ROH Wish List
2006
-Unified(seen it don't own it)
-Anarchy In The UK(seen it don't own it)
-4YA(maybe)

2007
FYF: Philly
FYF: NYC
FYF: Dayton
FYF: Chicago
FYF: Liverpool
FYF: Finale


Do any indy shows you've watched ranked up with the best ones that ROH has put out? No TPI's. If there isn't any can someone tell me the three best shows from Chikara, IWA:MS & PWG.

Qualifications:
-Two 4 star plus matches
-Solid undercard
-Unique NOT generic matches

[Homicide_187]

Quick question to PWG fans how is the Battle of the LA 2005?

[-Mystery-]

Originally Posted by Jack Evans 187

Ok, every time I ask about IWA-MS DVDs, no one ever replies. So, if anyone can, can you tell me how any of these shows are:


HURT 2007
No Retreat, No Surrender
Necro/Joe II
Big Ass Christmas Bash 2005
Put Up or Shut Up 2005
No Blood No Guts No Glory 2005
Revenge Served Cold 05

All the highlighted ones are must buys. Can't comment on the others since I haven't seen them. However, I have seen BACB 05 and it's not a must buy.

[Jack Evans 187]

Originally Posted by -Mystery-

All the highlighted ones are must buys. Can't comment on the others since I haven't seen them. However, I have seen BACB 05 and it's not a must buy.

Thanks. Those are in the top 4 of my list including Something to Prove. Can anyone else tell me anything about these shows:

No Retreat, No Surrender
Put Up or Shut Up 2005
Revenge Served Cold 05

[Obfuscation]

Originally Posted by Cide_187

Quick question to PWG fans how is the Battle of the LA 2005?

I would get it, not as good as 06 but still quite good.

Night one has AJ/Evans, Rocky/Kazarian, Daniels/Lost, Generico/Bosh(MOTN), Quick/Davey, Danielson/Reyes those are good matches(all *** or higher) and Dragon/Steen is a war...Gibson/Ryan is ok, not bad but ok & the opening 6 man tag is fun.

Night 2 had 8 Man tag, Danielson/Daniels, Bosh/Quicksilver & classic Kikutaro comedy match. I reccomend both nights seeing how they impressed me with solid wrestling all nights long.

[McQueen]

Originally Posted by Cide_187

Quick question to PWG fans how is the Battle of the LA 2005?

I personally liked it better than BOLA 2006 Cide, it's well worth getting.

Another excellent Indy tourney that I've never even seen mensioned in here was ECWA Super 8 2004, Chris Daniels, Mike Kruel, Psychosis, Rocky Romero, Ricky Reyes, John Walters, Daivari and a star making (no pun intended) performance by Austin Aries. Oh and the non tournament tag battle royal has Low Ki, Matt Striker (as in ECW not unibrowed) and everyones favorite Prince Nana. Nothing MOTY but a extremely solid show that flows really well.

And finally..

IWA: Mid South - Hurt 2007
Jack Triller vs Jeff Brooks - * 3/4
Vortekz vs Billy Roc - **
Iron Saints vs Ricochet & Chuck Taylor - ** 3/4
-Finishers Match-
Drake Younger vs CJ Otis - *** 3/4
-IWA Mid South Light Heavywieght Title-
Josh Ambercrombe (c) vs Jimmy Jacobs - *** 1/2
-IWA Mid South Tag Team Titles-
Ian Rotten & Mickie Knuckles vs North Star Express - **
Arik Cannon vs Erick Stevens - *** 1/2
-First Time Ever-
Low Ki vs Roderick Strong - *** 3/4

Overall Show Rating - *** 3/4 Very solid show from IWA: MS