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Old 02-11-2007, 03:00 AM   #5891 (permalink)
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I haven't seen the Chicago Spectacular Night I yet but Dethroned was a solid show. Nothing standout was on the card besides the ROH tag title match but it's still a must own show IMO especially if you're all caught up with ROH full shows up until that point.
Yeah Im pretty much upto date with ROH shows at the moment Ive got most of the ones I want. Ive heard good things about Dethroned so I'll probibly pick that up instead of Night 1.
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Old 02-11-2007, 04:29 AM   #5892 (permalink)
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^ DEFINATELY get Dethroned over CSN1.
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Alright guys. IVPVideos just released Best of Morishima. If you don't follow puro, you NEED this set. It features 5 or 6 matches, for $3. But the main draw are the 3/5 match vs. MIsawa, and 7/16 Wild II vs. KENTA and Marufuji. I cannot say enough 7/16 tag. It was one of the best matches of last year, and won DVDVR's Puro MOTY. It was like thesae 4 guys coming in and saying, "hey, this is OUR show now." This match MADE these 4 guys, and trust me, if your a wrestling fan, you NEED this match. It will go down as one of the most historically important matches of this generation. These 4, without being put over by anyone, went out and made their names and became players (except for Rikio, who just took a major step in remaking himself to the crowd). And it worked, at least one of them has been involved in every Budokan main event since. For $3, how do you turn that down?
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^ I gave the match (Wild 2 / KENTAFuji) ****1/4, definately must see.

I thought what took it down was Marafuji and Rikioh pretty much sucked in it (no other way to put it sorry), they were sloppy, botching etc.

What really annoyed me was in the ring (very near the end of the match) KENTA and Mori were having some of the best and most intense exchanges ever, and on the outside Marafuji and Rikioh are just doing some dull brawling and guardrail whips.

Still an amazing match, with some great intensity, drama and wrestling.
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You really feel that strongly about the match? I thought it was an awesome tag match (****1/4), but it made them and stuff and saying wrestling fans MUST own this? Meh. But yeah, for the price, definitely buy that DVD, tag match is worth it alone.

Marafuji and Rikio sloppy and botched stuff? WHAT?! Find me some examples, because I just watched that match numerous times and everyone was spot on. You don't have 1/2 the guys suck in a tag match and get a ****1/4 rating, it just doesn't happen.
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You really feel that strongly about the match? I thought it was an awesome tag match (****1/4), but it made them and stuff and saying wrestling fans MUST own this? Meh. But yeah, for the price, definitely buy that DVD, tag match is worth it alone.

Marafuji and Rikio sloppy and botched stuff? WHAT?! Find me some examples, because I just watched that match numerous times and everyone was spot on. You don't have 1/2 the guys suck in a tag match and get a ****1/4 rating, it just doesn't happen.
Yeah, sorry I went over the top a bit with my comments.

Marafuji botched a kove he was gonna do on Rikioh. He had him in a knyuckle lock, then ran up the ropes, and slipped. Yeah, he slipped, but I still count it as a botch.

I haven't watched the match in like a month, so I can't remember too mcuh - but I DO remember Morishima KICKING OUT of the Go 2 Sleep because Rikioh was too late breaking up the pin. Mori wasn't supposed to kick out of it (finisher killing), and it's basically Rikioh's fault.

Marafuji did hit some of his stuff nice, eg. his Shirinui and super kick.

All I remember Rikioh hitting well was a chokeslam and a lariat, that's it.
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What are some of the best ROH shows from 2003? I just watched Night of Champions and I loved it. I already have...

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One Anniversary Show, Wrath of the Racket and Final Battle 2003 are all solid.
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You really feel that strongly about the match? I thought it was an awesome tag match (****1/4), but it made them and stuff and saying wrestling fans MUST own this? Meh. But yeah, for the price, definitely buy that DVD, tag match is worth it alone.

Marafuji and Rikio sloppy and botched stuff? WHAT?! Find me some examples, because I just watched that match numerous times and everyone was spot on. You don't have 1/2 the guys suck in a tag match and get a ****1/4 rating, it just doesn't happen.
I honestly believe that Spartan. Just look, individually, at what it did for everyone. Let's preface this by noting the match was over like a motherfucker, and all 4 men got a HUGE standing ovation and pop post match.

1) Marufuji - The most obvious. Maru was on a streak of great matches at Budokan, with great matches vs. Taue and Kobashi. But, he had a hard test coming up, with a title match vs. Akiyama. To make it worse, he would have to be really over to get the notoriously hard to please Budokan crowd behind him, as he was replacing Kobashi in what should have been one of the hugest matches in NOAH history. I honestly believe that without this match, had Marufuji been in an average NOAH 6-man, the crowd would have crapped all over him as a sub par replacement. Rather, the match drew, Maru was over like hell, the crowd popped huge for his win, it drew, and signaled a passing of the torch in NOAH. I'm not convinced that happens without this match getting over so well, Misawa may not have had the confidence to give him the belt. Marufuji went on to have the MOTY in a low drawing Budokan, but he did something that needed to be done: show and educate the NOAH crowds on what the future was. He would go on to have a great drawing defense vs. Misawa, where Misawa let him kick out of the Emerald Frosion, Tiger Driver '91, and a super Tiger Suplex '85, showing much respect.

2) KENTA - KENTA proved he could hang with bigger guys, proving his match with Kobashi was not a fluke as he had the best exchanges of the match with Morishima that was over like gangbusters. Had KENTA not looked believable here, and had the match not gotten over like it did, Misawa may not have had the balls to book KENTA vs. Marufuji on a Budokan main event, another very important match.

3) Takeshi Morishima - Morishima was amazing in this contest, the standout. he gained much credibility by killing people dead, and much confidence from management by not only looking amazing, but making KENTA and Marufuji look incredibly credible and like giant killers. Showed that a junior vs. heavyweight, something not often seen prior to 06 in NOAH, could work without Kobashi to lead it along. KENTA vs. morishima is now drawing as one of the main events for the next Budokan, largely due to exchanges in this match.

4) Takeshi Rikio - Much simpler than the others. Budokan HATED Rikio. In this match, he looked like a killer lariating the hell out of MaruKENTA. Also, got over by association with Morishima. Definatly went a long way towards re-establishing himself for a potential title run in the future.

So ya, typed a lot more than I meant to, but thats my opinion towards it. Thats what happens when I decide not to get AAO though.
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See, I didn't know that all came from this one match, as I'm not big into puro. Could just said "Because I know more about puro than you" and that woulda been 'nuff for me, haha
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