Originally Posted by R_O_H
Upon rewatching I've come to give Joe/Dragon ***3/4. It's probably because I'm not a Joe fan at all, but I just wasn't entetanied throughout the match and got bored alot. I though Joe was sloppy on al his big offence (inc. botches) and yes, no sold his leg. Also it became pretty odvious they were going 60.
You just lost any credibility you had as a reviewer imo.
Just because your not a Joe fan doesnt make his matches any less good.
I HATE Jeff Hardy with a passion, but if he had a 5 star match, i would give that match 5 stars despite my hate for him.
You have to be unbiased. You cant rate Joe matches lower simply because you dont like Joe (and this goes for any worker).
Another thing, being "sloppy" towards the end of a 60 minute match is not a bad thing. I remember a match between Kojima & Tenzan that went real long, and towards the end.... to sell they were tired and out of it, they started blatently doing moves alot sloppier. That imo was a brilliant storytelling point, and a fantastic way to communicate the psychology to us.
Originally Posted by Spartanlax
If he has to no-sell the knee in order to hit a move without injuring Danielson or any other worker, then give the man a break, because that's what happened. When he hit his running facewash, he limped the entire time, when he had a moment to rest he tried walking around and fell to a kneeling position in pain...yes, some spots had lack of selling in the match, but in a 60 minute match you have to expect that and understand it. It's not like he was jumping around doing cartwheels after hurting his knee. He nailed some kicks and knee strikes, and then moments later when Danielson was hurt, he collapsed again. Joe is a heavy guy with hard strikes, he's willing to take pain to dish it out tenfold, that's what his whole character/gimmick is pretty much about, a badass that'll kick you in the face as much as possible.
Nice post Spar, and to an extent you can expect and understand it, but let me quickly say, its little things like that that seperate 4 star matches from 4 1/2 star, and 4 1/2 star from 5 and so on. You get the point.
For a match to be truly great, selling is one of the if not the MOST important thing.
It is much much much more important than workrate. But then again, what isnt when rating matches?