[McQueen]

Originally Posted by R_O_H

Death Before Dishonor 3 - Pretty much a one match show. That match being Punk vs Aries - ****1/4. Everything else is solid, ubt nothing to go out of your way for. If you want to see a HUGE ROH angle buy it, for there is a huge angle at the end of the show.

Generation Now - Solid show, just worth buying. The Generation Next 8 man tag was non stop fast action from bell to bell. All the offence was crisp, and psycology was there - ****. Nigel/Dragon I thought was really good, although others have not. People didnt like the technical wrestling and some aspects of the psycology - that didn't bother me. It has 3 really sick lariats and a cool finish - ****. Like DBD3, the undercard is solid but nothing to go out of your way for. I say buy it for Nigel/Dragon and the 8 man though.

Hell Freezes Over - Good show. Worth getting. AJ/Sydal is one of my favorite matches, it may not be the best, but it's so exciting and Sydal was just great here - ****. Unlike others I wasnt to into the Hero/Dragon main event, but then again I'm not really a fan of Hero at all. But thinking about it, it was a really good match - ***1/2.
The undercard is actually pretty fun. This show also has some pretty big angles. Good show, worth picking up.

How I would rank the shows:

Hell Freezes Over (just)
Generation Now
Death Before Dishonor 3

Pretty good way to sum up a quick review of these three shows, and I agree with the pretty much everything you said except I wouldn't go as far to say DBD III is a one match show (that would be DBD IV). Dispite the fact it is based around the main event the undercard was pretty much solid all the way through with a few hiccups near the beginning of the card.

I don't think I've ever actually heard anyone say they didn't like Nigel/Danielson II at Gen Now, but it seems to be everyone's general concensus that it was the weakest match in the series. And I think the Danielson/Hero is one of the stronger Danielson defenses. I can understand if it's not someone's cup of tea because it is a very slow paced match (as Hero likes the wrestle very methodically) but it had very good atmosphere and one of the few Danielson defenses I've seen thus far where I actually felt like he might lose despite knowing better (other's being Nigel's series, Strong II & III, KENTA & Delirious) and of course it was a catalyst in the formation of the ROH/CZW fued.

[ROH]

Originally Posted by McQueen

I don't think I've ever actually heard anyone say they didn't like Nigel/Danielson II at Gen Now, but it seems to be everyone's general concensus that it was the weakest match in the series.

Well I know people on the ROH board who dont like it.

[-Mystery-]

Originally Posted by R_O_H

Well I know people on the ROH board who dont like it.

The opinions from the ROH boards don't matter here. 90% of the people on that board are utter idiots.

[ROH]

Originally Posted by -Mystery-

The opinions from the ROH boards don't matter here. 90% of the people on that board are utter idiots.

How are they may I ask?

EDIT: Mystery, when are you gonna watch/have your BOLA Night 3 ratings up?

[-Mystery-]

Originally Posted by R_O_H

How are they may I ask?

EDIT: Mystery, when are you gonna watch/have your BOLA Night 3 ratings up?

Take that Angle to ROH thread that was up recently. How could you not want Angle in ROH? Now, I understand he's not in his prime any more but how can you say you wouldn't want to see matches like Angle/Danielson, Angle/Aries, Angle/Strong, Angle/Nigel, Angle/Homicide, etc?

I began to watch Night 3 last night and will finish watching after I finish watching a Chikara show. The match rating should be up later this afternoon.

[Spartanlax]

Originally Posted by -Mystery-

Take that Angle to ROH thread that was up recently. How could you not want Angle in ROH? Now, I understand he's not in his prime any more but how can you say you wouldn't want to see matches like Angle/Danielson, Angle/Aries, Angle/Strong, Angle/Nigel, Angle/Homicide, etc?

Ugh, I know. And then if you say you want Angle in ROH, they call you selfish because of his 'health problems' and shit, acting like they know everything wrong with him. Yeah, all of his life-threatening issues...he showed those during his matches with Joe and Abyss, sure did.

The ROH board sucks. There's actually more ROH discussion here than at those boards, those boards just have hundreds of people trying to make inside jokes with each other.

Well, there's my rant for the day. Back to the discussion of DVDs, I'll be picking up two CZW and two IWA:MS DVDs today.

IWA:MS- Something To Prove, and TPI04
CZW- ???

Anyone got 2 CZW DVD suggestions? I own BOTB 2, BOTB 5, TOD3, W2WC, COD5, NOI4, and something else...forget what.

[-Mystery-]

In all honesty I think you'd be better off getting 2 more IWA-MS shows than CZW.

[-Mystery-]

Chikara Cibernetico Forever
1. Rorschach vs. Reckless Youth - **3/4
2. UltraMantis Black, Hydra & Crossbones vs. Equinox & The Colony - **1/2
3. Excalibur vs. Player Uno - **
4. Shayne Hawke vs. Twiggy - **1/4
5. Max Boyer vs. Arik Cannon - ***
6. 16 Man Torneo Cibernetico - Gran Akuma, Icarus, Larry Sweeney, The Iron Saints (Sal, Vito & Brandon Thomaselli), Chris Hero & Claudio Castagnoli vs. Hallowicked, Cheech, Cloudy, Mike Quackenbush, Eddie Kingston, Shane Storm & The North Star Express - ***3/4

Overall show rating - ***

[watts63]

Can anybody tell me what are the best matches that Team Masturbation had?

[-Lock-]

Is there any where in England where i can buy these DVDs. (sorry to change the subject )