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**McQueen** · 12-10-2006, 01:39 AM

Hailsabin do you mean the ROH best of the American Super Jrs tournament? I can pull some ratings out of my ass if you want but I haven't watched the show in quite a while (so if anyone feels the need to dispute me on why I rated something I'm doing it by memory). I know quite a few people don't like this show but i really loved it and its one of my favorites from 2005.

Danielson vs Spanky - **** 1/4 (MOTN)
Dragon Soldier B(Kendo Ka Shin) vs Matt Sydal - **
Black Tiger (Romero) vs Alex Shelly - ***1/4
James Gibson vs Roderick Strong - ***1/2
No DQ - CM Punk & Cabana vs Rave & Fast Eddie (and the rest of the Embassy) - **
Danielson vs Black Tiger - ***3/4
DSB vs Gibson - 3/4*
Tag Team Scramble - Evans/Strong vs Azriel/Dixie vs Lacey's Angels vs Dunn & Marcos - *1/4
BJ Whitmer & Jimmy Jacobs vs Samoa Joe & Jay Lethal - ***
Austin Aries vs Homicide - ***3/4
Tournament Finals - **

And yeah most of the Best of AmDrag from (with the exception of the three matches with X-Pac, Collyer & Romero) are all with Japanese commentary but really is it that big of a deal. Small price to pay to see AmDrag in the ring with phenominal talent like Ultimo Dragon (wish it was against each other though), Minoru Tanaka & Koji Kanemoto if you ask me.

**Hailsabin** · 12-10-2006, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by McQueen

Hailsabin do you mean the ROH best of the American Super Jrs tournament? I can pull some ratings out of my ass if you want but I haven't watched the show in quite a while (so if anyone feels the need to dispute me on why I rated something I'm doing it by memory). I know quite a few people don't like this show but i really loved it and its one of my favorites from 2005.

Danielson vs Spanky - **** 1/4 (MOTN)
Dragon Soldier B(Kendo Ka Shin) vs Matt Sydal - **
Black Tiger (Romero) vs Alex Shelly - ***1/4
James Gibson vs Roderick Strong - ***1/2
No DQ - CM Punk & Cabana vs Rave & Fast Eddie (and the rest of the Embassy) - **
Danielson vs Black Tiger - ***3/4
DSB vs Gibson - 3/4*
Tag Team Scramble - Evans/Strong vs Azriel/Dixie vs Lacey's Angels vs Dunn & Marcos - *1/4
BJ Whitmer & Jimmy Jacobs vs Samoa Joe & Jay Lethal - ***
Austin Aries vs Homicide - ***3/4
Tournament Finals - **

And yeah most of the Best of AmDrag from (with the exception of the three matches with X-Pac, Collyer & Romero) are all with Japanese commentary but really is it that big of a deal. Small price to pay to see AmDrag in the ring with phenominal talent like Ultimo Dragon (wish it was against each other though), Minoru Tanaka & Koji Kanemoto if you ask me.

damn that card is stacked, i only knew a few matches. Cide vs Aries for the belt should be a good one ass well as the Tag titles. Spanky/Danielson sounds good with that score, opening match the best match, geez

Why are Gibson/DSB & The Scramble matches so low??

with the Japanese commentary, its not bad but i would just need to get used to it is all. It still sounds excellent though.

**McQueen** · 12-10-2006, 02:04 AM

Dragon Soldier B was intentionally cheating getting major heat from the fans but in the case of the Gibson/DSB match, Roderick absolutely destroys Gibson's back in the 1st round (which came into effect at the next show when Gibson faced Aries for the belt which was a nice touch) so the 2nd round match was kept pretty short. Most scrambles in ROH are just card filler spotfests and I can think of one or two I actually like, doesn't help that Strong was worn down, and the rest of the guys in the match were all 150 lb jobbers, the only really good thing about the scramble was Jack Evans worked his ass off in that match.

Currently watching TPI 2004 and damn so far it's awesome, just about to finish night one have a few matches left.

**Hailsabin** · 12-10-2006, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by McQueen

Dragon Soldier B was intentionally cheating getting major heat from the fans but in the case of the Gibson/DSB match, Roderick absolutely destroys Gibson's back in the 1st round (which came into effect at the next show when Gibson faced Aries for the belt which was a nice touch) so the 2nd round match was kept pretty short. Most scrambles in ROH are just card filler spotfests and I can think of one or two I actually like, doesn't help that Strong was worn down, and the rest of the guys in the match were all 150 lb jobbers, the only really good thing about the scramble was Jack Evans worked his ass off in that match.

Currently watching TPI 2004 and damn so far it's awesome, just about to finish night one have a few matches left.

Oh got it, i guess that's how DSB won the tournament then. I am just glad you gave Evans his due, that makes it good...i do enjoy a fun spotfest though. Ring Crew Express & Azrieal are 3 dudes i like in there

Thanks a lot

**ROH** · 12-10-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartanlax

It was a Japaneese match, it was all of Evans' best Dragon Gate matches (including one of his best single matches ever IMO).

I can only name a few of the people because, again, it's not listed under the match listing:

Evans/Sydal/Strong/Fuji/??? vs. Doi/Tanisaki/Yoshino/???/??? w/ Special Guest Referee ???

The wrestling was good, but just the heel/face interactions and everything...God, I loved that match.

I saw that match about 2 weeks ago, probably one of the best DG matches I've ever seen. The muscle outlaws looked PURE badass.

**Homicide_187** · 12-10-2006, 10:41 AM

Does anyone have the best of Nigel McGuinness from IVP? I was wondering if the matches are clipped or complete.

Thats_howIroll · 12-10-2006, 11:14 AM

How are these shows along with the video quality.

From IVPVIDEOS
Best Of's
-Benoit V.1
-Jericho V.1
-Eddie Guerrero V.2
-Jack Evans
-Jushin Liger V.2
-Low Ki V.1
-Dragon Gate 2005 V.3
Puroresu DVD Sampler.

I'm thinking of getting 3 along with the dvd sampler.
ANy other suggestions for Best of's?

**Spartanlax** · 12-10-2006, 12:29 PM

Best Of Jack Evans is a must have, especially for only $3. Best of Low Ki V.1 is one of the best, also. I've seen most of the matches on there, and his singles matches against Styles and Spanky are both ****, awesome action.

**Spartanlax** · 12-10-2006, 01:10 PM

I'm watching Best Of Steiner Brothers (in Japan) right now, and so far it's awesome. Steiners vs Bigelow/Vader is such a great tag team match, all the men are just huge and just destroy each other with suplexes and splashes and stuff.

**GenerationNeXt** · 12-10-2006, 01:12 PM

Ok i've got 25 dollars, someone tell me a ROH or PWG show that is a must buy.