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Dying In CZW
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Re: Official Indy DVD Help Thread
Lots to talk about today. Though this stuff isn't super recent it is all worth noting as it is some solid stuff.
King Of Gate Tournamment-This is actually a best of 2005 DVD for Dragon Gate but features all but one of the matches in the tournament.
Shingo vs. BxB Hulk-***
Dragon Kid vs. Susumu Yokosuka-***1/2
Ryo Saito vs. Masaaki Mochizuki-**1/2
Ryo Saito vs. Shingo-**3/4
CIMA vs. Susumu Yokosuka-**
The finals are on this DVD, but for some reason I get a disc error right after the intro ductions. Ok show, not super memeroble, but some solid work from some of the Dragon Gate guys before they were super stars.
Dragon Gate #65-This show had last years Dragon Gate match of the year, and is worth buying for just that match.
-The show starts with Don Fujii against Stalker, this is crappy for those that don't speak Japanese, but the fans at the show were ROTFL. Good for them. This was a true DUD though.
-K-Ness and Yasuki Kanda faced off against Horiguchi and Dr.Muscle in what is something of a heated rivalry, or at least the video package mad it seem so. This match was cut pretty brutally and that took away from it. I also am wondering who Dr.Muscle is, as I have never seen or heard of this guy before, but I do think he has a good look. *1/4
-A three match mini marathon of GAMMA and CIMA starts with them teaming against Liger and Masaaki Mochizuki. They did some good playing off of the fake trust tehy had for each other but this wasn't much better than weekly WWE TV (*3/4). Post match they fight setting up the next match, a three way including Liger. This was meh, in part because Liger was/is way off in Dragon Gate, part because this just was there to set up their third match (**). I guess this was the minifued blowout, with them having a singles match. I don't remember a ton, but this played off of their old matches a bit. I must have enjoyed and played into it as I smiled when CIMA got his revenge. **1/2-This is the match I am bought this for. Muscle Outlaw'z (Doi, Yoshino, Magnitude) vs. Typhoon (Dragon Kid, Saito, Yokosuka) vs. New Hazard (Shingo, BxB Hulk, Cyber Kong). So this is a triple threat 8 man tag uinder dragon gate rules. hott. The match starts with sets of three guys having fantastic exchanges of technichal skill and strikes. They then do some fancy multi man moves and then mass submissions involving 6 or more men. From here on they brawl all over and it is fast and quick. In the middle of this all Dragon Kid hits his own team mate with a Dragonrana and Doi and Yoshino hold him on top to score a pin. Very original with Typhoon pinning itself and eliminating itself from the match. After this it is hot potato between sets of two men. Only downsides to this part of the match is Magnitude (No emotion , sloppy, can't sell for shit) an maybe a bit to much of the unrefined Kong. The nearfalls were plentyful and realistic, I even fliped out when I though Magnatude had pinned Shingo. In the end they all worked together and I really wnat to she the match from this January where Speed Muscle takes on New Hazard. I agree that this was good enough to be their match of the year. I say ****1/2-****3/4
A few weeks ago I brought up an I Quit between Jimmy Rave and Tony Mamaluke from NWA Wildside, Hardcore Hell 2002. I had recorded it on a custom compalation VHS I made long ago. I found and watched it today. First off, Jimmy Rave was still in high shcool when this match happened. It is great to see how far he has came (ROH 4th Ani for example, or getting the fall on iMPACT last week). But onto the match.
This is the best I Quit I have ever seen. First off this was a true WRESTLING match. Look at the paragraph in my sig, that was this match watered down. There wasn't a dependance on weapons like we see now, this was a fued blow off that saw the use of one chair, and a ton of submissions. They put on a solid technical chain spectical, better than Danielson had against Aries at Honor Nation and Storm at Better Than Our Best.They moved onto slams and reversals, working to their big moves with more brutal submissions as we go. The story of this match was simalar to that of Styles and Rave in early ROH. Rave needs to be more aggresive, accept in ROH AJ tried to help, in NWA, Mamaluke is a great dickish heel, like, SUWA level dick. As we go Jimmy gets more intense, even being the initiator of the chair being brought in. Wrestling wise the story also saw Tony work down Rave's leg, which was done realistically besides when Jimmy forgot for a few split seconds to sell when he walked. There also was some cool moves in here you don't see every day. They did a great out of ring, low blowing hanging figure four spot on the outside. Normally I don't like shenanigan endings but here the passion they displayed made it work. Great match, I know it would be hard to find, but it is worth the search. ****1/2-****3/4. Seriously though, this was nearly as good as the ladder war. Way better than Danielson vs. Morishima in my view.
Last match of the night. Small box containing an inportant piece of paper that you have to unlock to win after finding the key match from AAA. I think this took place in 2005, but don't quote me. The first time I saw this match I was increadable confused about what was going on. I have seen it several times since. Still confused. An explanation of the rules is a match review. So here we go.
The match starts out as one on one. Nicho El Millionaro (Old Psychosis) vs. Psychosis (New Psychosis), yup Nicho is pissed that this douche bag stole his gimmick. So they brawl in the ring. I must say I love the Mexican weapons, they are kind of low quality and flimsy, so every show looks that much more stiff. After awhile they start to throw chairs in the crowd after leaving AAA's 6 sided ring. They then climb a ton of stairs and are out side, they then fight in a bathroom and women run and hide in the back stalls. You would run two, like seriously, do you want big sweaty men interupting your dump? Didn't think so. Physchosis (I mean Nicho, but it is hard for me to not reconize him by his true ring name) wins that little brawl and runs to the parking lot where CMLL's 4 sided ring is set up, with their lucha en el juega (cage) set up on it. He goes in the door and starts jumping around. He then rips the mat in two. Like seriously, try to figure out what is going on right now. One guy is laying on the floor in a rest room, I don't speak enough spanish to understand the announcer, and now Psychosis (Nicho) is ripping CMLL's ring apart on a (inter)nation broadcast of a AAA show. What the fuck right? Wellgood old Nicho pops out from under the ripped mat with the key, only to be jumped on by impoter Psychosis who steals the key. As this clown exits the rival promotions ring, the titan tron lights up and out walks Histeria. So I guess this is now a three way or something. All three meet on the stairs and fight, I lost track of the key, but at one point they all fall off of a balconey through a table, or at least Histeria and the faker, Nicho missed the table and landed on a metal box hard. When they get back in the ring they do some hardcore suff, but at all times one of the three is taking a turn setting up tables and ladders and stuff. The imposter tries to unlock the box but gets powerbombed off the top by Histeria onto a table covered in tacks. Histeria picks up the key and gives it to Nicho with a hand shake. Then when Nicho tries to unlock the box he is thrown onto a ladder and table on the outside. Histeria then wins the match.
Did you get all that. What a match I don't know what to think. In the end I give it ????~, which is kind of like **1/4, but not quite as quanotative, or as understandable. Seriously, Russo must have booked this, pry explains why TNA rehired him, they knew if they wanted their gimmick mathes to lose all credibility, they needed them to look like this.
Thats all I got for tonight. See ya'll in the morning.
Edit-The more I think about it the more reasons I can come up with for Jimmy Rave's I Quit being better than the Ladder War. Like seriously go and find this shit because it was good.
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A good wrestling match is like a balenced diet. Basic moves are carbs, they keep you going. It may not be your favorite part, arm drags and such, but they're key to your substance. Dairy is charisma and crowd interaction, like with bones, it strengthens the match. Meat is big moves like powerbombs and finishers. They are cool, but if you just rely on them you would be unhealthy, and the matches would be unwatchable. Technical mat work is fruits and vegetables. We may not like them all, but some of it can be sweet chain wrestling. Last but not least (well maybe) is spots and random indy MoVEz~!, your sugars and fats. You can not just eat chocolate, and thus you need to do more than flips and head drops to get **** and above.
MOTY-KENTA vs. Katsuhiko Nakajima ****1/2 (Kensuke Office)
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