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Old 05-03-2008, 11:08 AM   #15471 (permalink)
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Old 05-03-2008, 11:21 AM   #15472 (permalink)
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Gonna throw out a little match rating here.
AJPW Terry Funk Vs. Jumbo Tsuruta 06/11/76 ****1/2 - ****3/4
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I've been doing some DVD watching myself. Here are the ratings of note I got...

KENTA vs. Naomichi Marufuji-This is problably gonna end up being #2 on my favorite match list, between the Unified main event and the Ladder War. This was a great match. Coundless times I found myself marking the near falls. There was so much I had never seen before done in this match. I loved the build toward them doing their finishers, only to have them get blocked every time, then when they did hit them, they didn't get the fall! These guys definatly went all out. This match was worth the price of this DVD ($2.99, IVP's Best Of NOAH 2006 V.03). One scary spot of note was Marufuji doing a Springboard flipping drop kick from the apron to the far side of the guardrail, and nearly beheading himself on it in the process, while at the same time busting open KENTA's nose. Another spot was the classic falcon arrow from the apron to the floor. ****3/4-*****

2007 JAM Cup-This was a mix of Americans and Japanese guys in stable warfare style 4 v 4 v 4 elimination match at WrestleJam 2 for Dragon Gate. This was a fun match that wasn't clipped at all, finishing at about the 35 minute mark. The first 12 or so minutes was a fast paced royal rumble, but in what I assume is part of the Japanese battle royal style, compeditors took frequent breaks on the outside. After Shingo made his way to the ring this became a regular triple threat elimination tag team match. Fast paced stuff, good double team work, another display or Dragon Gate knowing how to do team matches. So after a long period of no eliminations, a burst of eliminations, and then a period of periodic eliminations we are down to the final two. One team tries to cheat but fails harming their own man. Normally the match would then end with the opponent rolling up or doing a big move on the harmed man. Not hear. The last two guys when and had a good sprint to the end. Great match where anyone can enjoy the variety of styles on display. Also, though I don't speak Japanese, the post match promo was hilarious, and worth watching for sure. ****-****1/4

Jay and Mark Briscoe vs. Takashi Suguira and Naomichi Marufuji (3.2.08)-****1/4-****1/2 More on this in the match of the year thread.

I'll put up full show ratings when I finish them, right now I am jumping around between disks.
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Picked up DGC2, SOH3, Double Feature, and Without Remorse. This'll be my first experience where I watch the DVD of a show I've already attended (Orlando shows).

My question is this: how do you react to shows that you've already seen? Do match ratings go up or down? How distracting is it when you are able to stare at yourself staring at the ring?
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I found that some matches go up others will go down. Live ratings can go up when the crowd was super hot, but without that on the DVD the ration goes down. Other times like in technical contests when you can's see perfect, the rating will go up thanks to up close camera angles.

As for seeing yourself in the crowd, both times I felt like an idiot. I have never been in the front row, but I am always looking stupid when you can see me. For example at EEII when the Briscoes are getting their hands raised, I am the only one standing up on my side. Another example was at BOSP last April I stood up fro ever in row two with a camera in front of my face waiting to get a picture of Aries' 450 (which by the way didn't turn out ). Luckily they edited it of the DVD, but in the video wire for the next show you can see me bright and clear... (and stupid looking)
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Just watched the last two matches on the 12.2.07 NOAH show.

Kobashi's Return Match-****1/4-****1/2-Good match, maybe not as emotional for me as for others seeing how this is the second match I have ever watched of Kobashi, and I have never seen Misawa and friends before. The only Kobashi I know was Joe vs. Kobashi, at first Kobashi was way watered down and rusty as opposed to that match, but by the end he was going great. The end was hot, though I was suprised at the actual fall. Also, for the love of god, the man just came off of cancer and now you are doing be moves on him. I am suprised at the things this man took. I do not know what will kill this man. And I don't want to know for a long time. Long Live Kobashi!

Marufuji vs. Morishima-****1/4-****1/2-I found the first half of this match boring. But then again I found most of what Big Mo did in ROH unbearable (vs. Steen>vs. Danielson). Then they started doing some crazy stuff. Example-Flux Capacitor off the enterance ramp by Marufuji to the floor with Big Mo landing on to of him. Once they were back inside they kept up the pace. The last few minutes were insane and hot and brought the rating up. I would call it a near perfect end sequence. I must say this is the first time I have seen Morishima make a pin and not hoped the match was over, I wanted them to keep it up.

I will get thoughts on the rest of the show once I watch it.
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