[Troy]

Originally Posted by McQueen

Capone that was directed at Sephy.

LAWLS Yoshinari Ogawa.

Yeah, i've seen that match before and it was pretty good but you should see Kobashi against one his true peers like Misawa, Kawada, Akiyama or Stan Hansen.

Are you laughing at my praising for Yoshinari Ogawa?

Yeah, I figured I'd go find download some of Kobashi's matches with those mentioned guys. I read some info on wikipedia regarding him, and his matches with those competitors are highly regarded.

What do you rate the match I reviewed?

[McQueen]

Originally Posted by Troy_Umaga

Are you laughing at my praising for Yoshinari Ogawa?

Yeah, I figured I'd go find download some of Kobashi's matches with those mentioned guys. I read some info on wikipedia regarding him, and his matches with those competitors are highly regarded.

What do you rate the match I reviewed?

Been a while since i've seen it but I think I gave it *** 3/4 to ****'s. The reason I laughed about Ogawa is because he is often booked against the Heavyweights in NOAH despite he's a junior based pretty much on the fact he is Misawa (owner of NOAH's) best buddy. Some puro fans don't believe he belongs in the ring with the heavy's. That being said the match you did watch was rather good but it pales in comparison to some of Kobashi's better work.

If you care about the Wrestling Observer's opinion Kobashi is the highest decorated wrestler of all time with 24 ***** matches and 6 MOTY wins (for '92, '98, '99, '03, '04, '05)

[Troy]

Originally Posted by McQueen

Been a while since i've seen it but I think I gave it *** 3/4 to ****'s. The reason I laughed about Ogawa is because he is often booked against the Heavyweights in NOAH despite he's a junior based pretty much on the fact he is Misawa (owner of NOAH's) best buddy. Some puro fans don't believe he belongs in the ring with the heavy's. That being said the match you did watch was rather good but it pales in comparison to some of Kobashi's better work.

If you care about the Wrestling Observer's opinion Kobashi is the highest decorated wrestler of all time with 24 ***** matches and 6 MOTY wins (for '92, '98, '99, '03, '04, '05)

Well the bit about Ogawa is rather interesting. Best buddy or not, the guy is capable of putting on a great match. He adapts and blends in so well. His size really shouldn't be of importance -_-.

[McQueen]

Get more familiar with the Japanese heavyweight style (especially the All Japan/NOAH styles), you'll understand what i'm talking about. Ogawa isn't my favorite but he is fun sometimes.

[Burning Sword]

Wow, looks like I miss a good conversation here a few pages back. Andy scores again with one of his 5-Star Reviews.

All Japan 6/9/95- Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue vs. Mitsuharu Misawa and Kenta Kobashi

Like this needs any explaination. Taue and Kawada going full on heel and targeting the injuries of Misawa and Kobashi was greatness and Kobashi selling was fucking amazing. The closing stretch was phenomenal as well, with Kobashi desperately trying to save Misawa because he knew he was finished. 40+ Minutes of classic, epic storytelling. *****

[Andy3000]

Like I've said before, I'm not as huge on 6/9/95 as most, but it deserves ***** for Kobashi's selling and the story of the whole scenario itslef. All around fantasticness (it's a word 'coz I fucking said so).

Troy, I guess I'll just echo what McQueen said really; if you were impressed with Kobashi's effort against Ogawa (which I also liked, by the way - ****), then his stuff against Misawa, Kawada, Hansen and some of the best tag matches of all time which he's been involved in (like the one mentioned above) could quite conceivably blow your freakin' head off! The guy really is phenomenal..... but Kawada's bettter.

And 5 STARZ!! for me . Thanks, Burning.

[Thisskateboarding]

Just got done with FIP Redifined which was the first full show ive watched from FIP (got Stroung vs Evens but never watched the whole show) an I gotta say it was pretty impressive.

Just a quick qestion does FIP allways like run the show on the fly with wrestlers just challenging each other? Does the crowd even know any matches theregoing to get before they arrive? Seemed interesting

[vivalabrave]

In my post a few pages back I forgot to mention that ROH also posted (in addition to Pearce/Hagadorn vs. Vulture Squad) Pelle vs Strong from Double Feature.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOIC_hm2TmA

[Platt]

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4. Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black (Relaxed Rules Match)
5. Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. BxB Hulk & SHINGO
6. Nigel McGuinness vs. Austin Aries (ROH World Title Match)
7. Typhoon (CIMA, Dragon Kid, & Ryo Saito) vs. Muscle Outlawz(Naruki Doi, Masato Yoshino & Genki Horiguchi)

Dragon Gate Challenge II- Orlando, FL 3/28/08 (DVD)

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5. Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black vs. BxB Hulk & SHINGO
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4. wXw Lightheavyweight Title: Jonny Storm vs. Mike Quackenbush...2/28/04
5. Mike Quackenbush, Jigsaw, & Gran Akuma vs. Hallowicked & The Wildcards...8/21/04
6. CZW Jr. Title 2/3 Falls Match: Mike Quackenbush vs. Emil Sitoci...2/12/05
7. Mike Quackenbush, Jigsaw, & Gran Akuma vs. Eddie Kingston, Hallowicked, & Skayde...2/13/05
8. Mike Quackenbush vs. Chris Hero...12/17/05
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wXw...Best of Chris Hero Vol. 2 (Double DVD-R Set)

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5. 16K Gold Tournament Finals: Chris Hero vs. Ares...5/6/07
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5. Nigel McGuinness vs. Sal Rinauro
6. Jigsaw vs. Moonshine McCoy
7. Erick Stevens vs. Larry Sweeney
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[watts63]

If you own PWG 70|30 & never watched Disco Machine vs. Human Tornado on commentary...watch it now. Everytime Disco hits Candice LaRae, Excalibur would go off on him & reveals a history of Domestic Violence.

*Disco Baseball Slides Candice*
Excalibur: You Son of A Bitch!
DM: I Didn't Mean It.
Excalibur: You Son of A Bitch!
DM: I Didn't Mean It.
Excalibur: You Son of A Bitch!
DM: I Didn't Mean It.
Excalibur: You Son of A Bitch!
DM: Hey!
Excalibur: You Son of A Bitch!
*Disco Tries To Explain The Situation & Gets Interrupted*
Excalibur: You Son of A Bitch!
DM: How Dare You!

*Disco Chops Candice*
Excalibur: DISCO MACHINE, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?!
DM: I Don't Know What To Say-
Excalibur: You Son of A Bitch!

*A Little Later*
Excalibur: I Heard That You Once Threw A Woman Down The Stairs Because She Didn't Fold Your Laundry Correctly.
DM: If This Was 2003, You May Have A Case.

*Disco German Suplexes Tornado & Candice*
Excalibur: DISCO MACHINE, YOU ARE A ANIMAL! YOU ARE A MONSTER! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU, DISCO MACHINE?!
DM: I Didn't See Her!
Excalibur: Yeah, That's What Davey Richards Said After He Beat His Wife!


*Disco Front Dropkicks Candice*
Excalibur: You Son of A Bitch!


The commentary alone makes this match one of my favorites lol.