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Re: Official Indy DVD Help Thread

See I run into trouble here- I'd take Misawa over Kobashi if we're just talking 90s... but in the 00s Kobashi destroys Misawa to such a point that he ends up ahead. Let's try ranking these so I don't go insane.

1. Jumbo - see King's Road article
2. Kawada- best peak period ever
3. Kobashi - the 00s stuff puts him over the top.
4. Misawa - Great peak, held on too long.
5. Hansen - He's the best Gaijin ever for my money.
6. Taue - Mostly because Holy Demon Army is the best team ever.
7. Brody = Hansen - Longevity
8. Gordy - Peaked better than Williams, but lesser career.
9. Dr. Death - Awesome impact for a long while.
10. Akiyama - If he was more selfish he'd be at 6, but is just too goddamn selfless.

Vader and Tenryu straddled the two promotions so I have problems ratng them, but Tenryu is at worst 6, but probably 4 or 5, while Vader would then slot in right below Taue.
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post #15282 of 16091 (permalink) Old 04-28-2008, 04:51 PM
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Top All Japan guys, all time?

1. Jumbo
2. Kawada
3. Misawa
4. Kobashi
5. Hansen
6. Tenryu
7. Taue
8. Choshu
9. Akiyama
10. Dr. Death
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Top All Japan guys, all time?

1. Jumbo
2. Kawada
3. Misawa
4. Kobashi
5. Hansen
6. Tenryu
7. Taue
8. Choshu
9. Akiyama
10. Dr. Death
It hurts me to put Taue so low, but yea I agree with this. At their best I would rather watch Taue over Misawa and Kobashi though.

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Top 10 All Japan

1. Jumbo
2. Kawada
3. Misawa
4. Kobashi
5. Hansen
6. Tenryu
7. Taue
8. Dr. Death
9. Akiyama
10. Giant Baba (With No Baba, there would be no All Japan)
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Oh fuck, we're counting Riki now. Just his AJ work or does all his longevity count too? If it does, we've got to be talking top 5. If just his AJ stuff, I'd have him at 8. Influential, but Tenryu was flat out better.
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Guess I'll give this a go as well:

#1 Jumbo
#2 Kawada
#3 Misawa
#4 Kobashi (I'm going for only All Japan here, but if this were overall, Kobashi would switch with Misawa)
#5 Hansen
#6 Tenryu
#7 Brody
#8 Taue
#9 Akiyama
#10 Dr. Death
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post #15287 of 16091 (permalink) Old 04-28-2008, 05:01 PM
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Fuck Choshu might have only been there for 2 years but what he added to King's Road shouldn't be overlooked. Choshu's "Sprint, brawl and lariat everything in sight" style changed Puro forever.

And the fact he brought over like 10 people with him, some of which (Yatsu for example) would actually make a bit of an impact should be added.

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I agree with McQueen. Riki's style changed Puro basically, although I doubt I'd have him on my top 10. Either way, I wouldn't argue if someone else did.
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Seconded.

A wrestling match is like a balanced diet. The basics are carbs, keeping you going. Armdrags may not be the highlight, but they're key to the development. Dairy is emotion and crowd interaction, like bones, they strengthen the match, and in there absense, the it will fall apart. Meat is moves like suplexes and finishers. They’re cool, but if you rely on them you’d be unhealthy, and the matches unwatchable. Mat work is fruits and vegetables. We may not like them, but some is sweet chain wrestling. Last is spots and indy MoVEz~!, your sugars and fats. You can't just eat chocolate, and thus you need to do more than flips and head drops to get above ****.
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I wish I watched Puro so I could discuss this stuff with you guys.

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