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Old 04-28-2008, 03:40 PM   #15271 (permalink)
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A match with those 4 can't be anything less than awesome.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:50 PM   #15272 (permalink)
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Yeah, great match. One of the rare ocassions where Jumbo actually submitted, I think.

The New Japan tag I reviewed yesterday is up in the Media section, in case anybody's interested. I recommend it .
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:52 PM   #15273 (permalink)
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Haha thats probably the only high profile AJ match from the 90's that ends with a submission.

The one thing I didn't like about King's Road was submissions meant almost nothing aside from Kawada's Stretch Plum.
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Haha, now that you say that, I know what you mean. Kawada's stretch plum was the only submission move that really got over to an extent where it was actually believable that the opponent could give up.
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I want to see Kawada stretch out Hard Gay...yeah, I said it.
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I know this is wrong, and maybe not the place, but I just don't like Taue as much as the others against anyone but the pillar/Jumbo/the major gaijin. Am I alone in this? I often feel similarly about Misawa, but his pillar stuff solo is a level above, so I tend to not mind.

Kobashi, Kawada and Especially Jumbo work far better with other, generally lesser workers.
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When I think 90's AJPW, I tend to think the Triple Crown run of Misawa or Kawada, or Kobashi vs. Misawa/Kawada vs. Misawa or the epic tag matches between the four. Taue is usually left out. Sadly I think Akiyama before Taue simply because he's still doing good work in NOAH and he has that stigma of being a poor man's pillar, but I liked him a lot more than Taue.

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I prefer both Kawada and Kobashi to Misawa, who I was never all that high on personally, although it's not difficult to see the greatness even at that. Taue... I do like. He seems to be like the El Samurai of the All Japan heavyweight division though, in that he was always very solid, yet sometimes pretty bland and, to an extent, sometimes forgotten.

I'd take Kobashi, Kawada and Jumbo over Taue/Misawa/Akiyama though.
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Obviously, I'll take Kobashi and Kawada over Taue and Misawa. I also like Akiyama, Jumbo, Hansen, Tenryu, and Vader during his late run.
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Taue was somewhat clumsy in the ring and not the best technician, but damn that man had some serious fire in his comebacks. I can't think of much else i'd rather watch than a Taue comeback hope spot. Taue is easily the most "hit or miss" of the 4 Pillars but I think when he was really on his "A" Game, I thought he was better than Misawa or Kobashi.

Not Jumbo or Kawada though.
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