Because the World Title Match was the most important match and beacause of the fact, that this Match was so bad, it draged the PPV down. Without the Title Match, I would give the PPV *** 1/4 but the Match was on the card.
Or isnīt it appropriate to give the World Titel Match the biggest wheigt in the review?
I see what you're saying, but the way i see it, that match was just a squash to put over Morishima for the people who don't watch ROH DVDs (just like Albright/Primeau).
I understand your way of thinking, but the Main Event was Nigel/Danielson, and when you accept those two as being squashes, then i don't think they should play much of a role towards the overall rating...
I don't give overall ratings, but i think it was definitely above **3/4...that's not even average, whereas i thought Driven was a very good PPV, one of the best of the year
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Each and every single one of you, including everybody standing on this apron, or in this ring, or anybody who ever crossed that threshold of that door, and gave their blood, their sweat, their tears, put their life on the line, we put each other's lives, in our hands each and every single time we're in this ring, and whether you like me or you hate me or you love me, we do it for each and every single one of you"
-CM Punk (after a 53 minute 'Tables & Ladders' match, in a blood-stained ring, inside a warehouse, in front of barely 200 people...)
Roderick Strong, Davey Richards & Rocky Romero vs. Delirious, Erick Stevens & Matt Cross- *** 1/2 X 1
Claudio Castagnoli vs. Matt Sydal- *** X 1
BJ Whitmer vs. Naomichi Marufuji- *** X 1
Brent Albright vs. Pelle Primeau- 1/2 * X 1
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico- *** 3/4 X 3
Takeshi Morishima vs. Jimmy Rave- * X 5 ( ? )
Nigel McGuinness vs. Bryan Danielson- **** 3/4 X 4 ( ? )
45,25/16 = 2,83 =
Overall: ** 3/4
Is the X 5 for the Title Match to much? Because I usually rate a World Title Match X 5. It is difficult to differentiate between a " real " World Title Match and a Squash World Title Match, you understand my point of view?
Yeah, i get it, but i wouldn't put a X5 multiplier on it...maybe a X2 or a X3 at most, because it wasn't a hyped match, it wasn't something the PPV was centred around and it was, when all is said and done, a squash - and a decent one at that for what it was...
Again, i see where you're coming from - why would a guy get a title shot if he was gonna get squashed and we all knew it? - but that's what happened...i don't know...definitely above **3/4 for me though...math may not add up for more than that, but i definitely enjoyed watching it more than **3/4
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"Like my back, the microphone is broken, so you've got to quiet down one second.
Each and every single one of you, including everybody standing on this apron, or in this ring, or anybody who ever crossed that threshold of that door, and gave their blood, their sweat, their tears, put their life on the line, we put each other's lives, in our hands each and every single time we're in this ring, and whether you like me or you hate me or you love me, we do it for each and every single one of you"
-CM Punk (after a 53 minute 'Tables & Ladders' match, in a blood-stained ring, inside a warehouse, in front of barely 200 people...)
Is the X 5 for the Title Match to much? Because I usually rate a World Title Match X 5. It is difficult to differentiate between a " real " World Title Match and a Squash World Title Match, you understand my point of view?
i think you're expecting way too much from the ROH title defense. there was no build to it, no promos, no hype, nothing. i'd say X2 simply because it was a title match tho.
if you want to give matches a higher emphasis than others, do it on the ones that have build or have been building too over the PPVs. like Danielson vs. McGuinness stemmed from Respect is Earned and was the main event. then since whoever wins gets a title shot at the 3rd PPV so the Title match at the 3rd PPV is going to be REALLY important because of the #1 contender's match and how it's being built to. same goes for Briscoes vs. Generico/Steen ladder match. those two matches are the ones you should be putting X5 on in the 3rd PPV.
i've never seen anyone base their overall on multipliers and star ratings like that before. pretty creative.
but Danielson vs. McGuinness is the one you should put X5 on. X2 for Claudio vs. Sydal since their singles match stemmed from the tag match from RIE.
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Ring Of Honor Presents "Rising Above 2009" Chicago Ridge, Illinois - January 16th, 2009
ROH World Title Match: Nigel McGuinness(c) vs. Bryan Danielson I Quit: Austin Aries w/ ??? vs. Jimmy Jacobs w/ Tyler Black
i think you're expecting way too much from the ROH title defense. there was no build to it, no promos, no hype, nothing. i'd say X2 simply because it was a title match tho.
Well actually their was a Jimmy Rave promo with a highlight reel of him on the PPV to hype the title match.
Roderick Strong, Davey Richards & Rocky Romero vs. Delirious, Erick Stevens & Matt Cross- *** 1/2 X 1
Claudio Castagnoli vs. Matt Sydal- *** X 1
BJ Whitmer vs. Naomichi Marufuji- *** X 1
Brent Albright vs. Pelle Primeau- 1/2 * X 1
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico- *** 3/4 X 3
Takeshi Morishima vs. Jimmy Rave- * X 5 ( ? )
Nigel McGuinness vs. Bryan Danielson- **** 3/4 X 4 ( ? )
45,25/16 = 2,83 =
Overall: ** 3/4
Is the X 5 for the Title Match to much? Because I usually rate a World Title Match X 5. It is difficult to differentiate between a " real " World Title Match and a Squash World Title Match, you understand my point of view?
Roderick Strong, Davey Richards & Rocky Romero vs. Delirious, Erick Stevens & Matt Cross- *** 1/2 X 1
Claudio Castagnoli vs. Matt Sydal- *** X 1
BJ Whitmer vs. Naomichi Marufuji- *** X 1
Brent Albright vs. Pelle Primeau- 1/2 * X 1
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico- *** 3/4 X 3
Takeshi Morishima vs. Jimmy Rave- * X 5 ( ? )
Nigel McGuinness vs. Bryan Danielson- **** 3/4 X 4 ( ? )
45,25/16 = 2,83 =
Overall: ** 3/4
Is the X 5 for the Title Match to much? Because I usually rate a World Title Match X 5. It is difficult to differentiate between a " real " World Title Match and a Squash World Title Match, you understand my point of view?