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So I'm a total noob when it comes to Japanese wrestling. I've been doing a little bit of exploring the past few days and have found a beginners guide on some wrestling site for NJPW that talks about the PPVs, titles, roster, etc. I've even watched the Destruction at Kobe PPV from September. What I'm more or less wanting to know is AJPW worth looking into as well? And if it is, is there an easy way to go about learning more about it other than just watching some shows? Any kind of reference guide or beginners guide or even information in general would be awesome.
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New Japan is currently ahead of All Japan right now be some distance, but that does change or has changed over the years.

All Japan has just gone through its third exodus, once Muta resigned he took half the roster with him to form Wrestle-1, the same thing happened to All Japan with the late Mitsuharu Misawa in 2000, he was angry at the direction Shohei Baba wanted to take the company, so he left and took the majority of the roster and formed Pro Wrestling NOAH, so like TNA they are in the midsts or starting to rebuild their roster, Jun Akiyama (NOAH and AJPW legend) bought the company and is now the boss, but they have a lot of work to do, two new groups have formed, Evolution, which is lead by Yoshihiro Takayama (babyface group) and the Dark Kingdom lead by Kenzo Suzuki.

New Japan on the other hand are experiencing their best period in a number of years (they won't ever reach the lofty heights of the 90s again, but still), AJ Styles is the IWGP Champion at the moment and leads the Bullet Club which was originally formed by Prince Devitt (and was arguably the star of the group, since gone to WWE). New Japan went through a bad period in the mid 2000's and Wrestle Kingdom which is held every January 4th in the Tokyo Dome was only doing 15,000 people even with Brock Lesnar on the card and it got to the point where Antonio Inoki/Simon Inoki was removed from office and was sold to Yukes, however recent success has seen that doubled to around 30,000-35,000, during the bad mid 2000's period New Japan were building for the future with new stars and now they're starting to see that come to fruition.

Other promotions to check out are DDT (pro wrestling mixed with fantastic entertainment at times), Dragon Gate (Lucharesu, Lucha combined with Strong Style) and Big Japan Wrestling (if you're a fan of deathmatches, they also do strong style) and of course Pro Wrestling NOAH who have been struggling a little since Misawa's death in 2009 and have just lost their main star KENTA to WWE and Kenta Kobashi has retired, but they have great talent like Zack Sabre Jr emerging.

Best womens promotions are WWR STARDOM and JWP, plus if you want check out GAEA Japan or AJW, both no longer in business but changed the womens wrestling business over there and across the world you might say.

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is wrestle-1 any good. only really watched NJPW and absolutely love it
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Wrestle-1's been very decent so far, its still in its infancy so its still hard to cast a judgement, but there shows in February and March were very good.
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The thing is that when njpw had their worst period, Noah was on fire and the aformentioned Akiyama was going to take over as the no 1 guy after Misawa and Kobashi. Ajpw was under the radar

Go Shiozaki was the super prospect in Noah, much like Tanahashi was at the time in njpw.

Then noah crashed and Akiyama's and Go's careers were doomed.

Now theyre both in ajpw trying to survive.

To me that is the most fascinating narrative
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New Japan is currently ahead of All Japan right now be some distance, but that does change or has changed over the years.

All Japan has just gone through its third exodus, once Muta resigned he took half the roster with him to form Wrestle-1, the same thing happened to All Japan with the late Mitsuharu Misawa in 2000, he was angry at the direction Shohei Baba wanted to take the company, so he left and took the majority of the roster and formed Pro Wrestling NOAH, so like TNA they are in the midsts or starting to rebuild their roster, Jun Akiyama (NOAH and AJPW legend) bought the company and is now the boss, but they have a lot of work to do, two new groups have formed, Evolution, which is lead by Yoshihiro Takayama (babyface group) and the Dark Kingdom lead by Kenzo Suzuki.

New Japan on the other hand are experiencing their best period in a number of years (they won't ever reach the lofty heights of the 90s again, but still), AJ Styles is the IWGP Champion at the moment and leads the Bullet Club which was originally formed by Prince Devitt (and was arguably the star of the group, since gone to WWE). New Japan went through a bad period in the mid 2000's and Wrestle Kingdom which is held every January 4th in the Tokyo Dome was only doing 15,000 people even with Brock Lesnar on the card and it got to the point where Antonio Inoki/Simon Inoki was removed from office and was sold to Yukes, however recent success has seen that doubled to around 30,000-35,000, during the bad mid 2000's period New Japan were building for the future with new stars and now they're starting to see that come to fruition.

Other promotions to check out are DDT (pro wrestling mixed with fantastic entertainment at times), Dragon Gate (Lucharesu, Lucha combined with Strong Style) and Big Japan Wrestling (if you're a fan of deathmatches, they also do strong style) and of course Pro Wrestling NOAH who have been struggling a little since Misawa's death in 2009 and have just lost their main star KENTA to WWE and Kenta Kobashi has retired, but they have great talent like Zack Sabre Jr emerging.

Best womens promotions are WWR STARDOM and JWP, plus if you want check out GAEA Japan or AJW, both no longer in business but changed the womens wrestling business over there and across the world you might say.
I've never seen any Dragon Gate matches. Anything exceptional?
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New Japan is currently ahead of All Japan right now be some distance, but that does change or has changed over the years.

All Japan has just gone through its third exodus, once Muta resigned he took half the roster with him to form Wrestle-1, the same thing happened to All Japan with the late Mitsuharu Misawa in 2000, he was angry at the direction Shohei Baba wanted to take the company, so he left and took the majority of the roster and formed Pro Wrestling NOAH, so like TNA they are in the midsts or starting to rebuild their roster, Jun Akiyama (NOAH and AJPW legend) bought the company and is now the boss, but they have a lot of work to do, two new groups have formed, Evolution, which is lead by Yoshihiro Takayama (babyface group) and the Dark Kingdom lead by Kenzo Suzuki.

New Japan on the other hand are experiencing their best period in a number of years (they won't ever reach the lofty heights of the 90s again, but still), AJ Styles is the IWGP Champion at the moment and leads the Bullet Club which was originally formed by Prince Devitt (and was arguably the star of the group, since gone to WWE). New Japan went through a bad period in the mid 2000's and Wrestle Kingdom which is held every January 4th in the Tokyo Dome was only doing 15,000 people even with Brock Lesnar on the card and it got to the point where Antonio Inoki/Simon Inoki was removed from office and was sold to Yukes, however recent success has seen that doubled to around 30,000-35,000, during the bad mid 2000's period New Japan were building for the future with new stars and now they're starting to see that come to fruition.

Other promotions to check out are DDT (pro wrestling mixed with fantastic entertainment at times), Dragon Gate (Lucharesu, Lucha combined with Strong Style) and Big Japan Wrestling (if you're a fan of deathmatches, they also do strong style) and of course Pro Wrestling NOAH who have been struggling a little since Misawa's death in 2009 and have just lost their main star KENTA to WWE and Kenta Kobashi has retired, but they have great talent like Zack Sabre Jr emerging.

Best womens promotions are WWR STARDOM and JWP, plus if you want check out GAEA Japan or AJW, both no longer in business but changed the womens wrestling business over there and across the world you might say.
I appreciate the reply and information. Thank you.
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Watch both. 90s all japan and 90s new japan are so different an both so great

Hase, Mutoh, Misawa, Chono, Kobashi, Kawada, Hashimoto, Steiner Bros, Vader, Kensuke, Akiyama, Kobashi...

Those were the guys to watch.

But since about 2007 New Japan went from just ok to the second biggest company in the world

Current All Japan is still good. Doering and Suwama are great. But new japan is a giant

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I've never seen any Dragon Gate matches. Anything exceptional?
Tozawa and BxB Hulk vs Nakuri Doi and Ricochet from 2013 below. By the way...there is also Dragon Gate UK and Dragon Gate USA too, the promotion was born out of Ultimo Dragon's Gym/School in 1999 under the name Toryumon until 2004 when Ultimo left and thus the name was changed to Dragon Gate.


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Watch both. 90s all japan and 90s new japan are so different an both so great

Hase, Mutoh, Misawa, Chono, Kobashi, Kawada, Hashimoto, Steiner Bros, Vader, Kensuke, Akiyama, Kobashi...

Those were the guys to watch.

But since about 2007 New Japan went from just ok to the second biggest company in the world

Current All Japan is still good. Doering and Suwama are great. But new japan is a giant

How does pillman's pencil sound sane when talking anything but tna?
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