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Why there being a second national company does help the indy scene

A lot of people have been begging for tna to go out of business to help the indy scene. Just because tna is going under does not mean it is going to help the indy scene. There are many people who want there to be no other national promotion but the wwe just to make most of the attention go to the indy scene. There are people who even think that the indy companies like PWG or Ring of honor are going to get a tv deal.

The problem is that people don't realize that indy companies either don't have the money and appeal. Then there is the desire, none of the indy companies have any desire to get to a national stage at all. In fact Joey Ryan has even said that if he was offered a tv deal he would turn it down.

Even for those who want to give indy wrestling just a little attention, what no second national promotion for just a little attention, which is probably all they are going get at this point. The thing is do the indies even need tna to go under to get attention. If all they want is what they are doing and get a ppv once in a while, it seems like they don't need it. Sure you might get new wrestlers, but really do you even need those new wrestlers, I mean if there is no second national company, but it seems like the indies are doing good already and seems like they are happy with this.

In fact I think a second wrestling company does help the indies. The fact is that more indy wrestlers get on tv, and ROH and PWG can sell dvd's about these wrestlers, I bet they made a lot off Areis during his tna run.

To me also it is going to make wrestlers who are declined by wwe start to just not care anymore. I look at Chris Hero right now, probably one of the most passionate wrestlers I have ever seen, looks like he can not just give a fuck anymore, wwe declined him and tna may be going under, so he is pretty much reached as far as he is going to get, so he probably says fuck it and has pretty much given up, plus he has done everything he can probably do on the indy scene. People talk about passion all they want and you should show it, but this man has been passionate for years. Right now he is coasting, and that is not good for the indy scene, and with no second national company I see more people just coasting after they accomplish everything they want.
With a second national option you will perhaps see new Chris Hero start getting in shape because now he has a new goal to chase, and you will a new chris Hero become the Chris Hero that people use to love. This can happen to many wrestlers, hell look at Areis.

This man was about to retire now wwe to go after and chase, then out of nowhere he goes to tna and it gave him new life. If tna can pull a miracle and surive or GFW goes national (they want to), then this can happen to many wrestlers. Now I know a lot of people are going to say, HOW IS THIS GOING TO HELP INDYS, THEY ARE TAKING THEIR WRESTLERS. Let's be honest, guys like Areis did everything he could do, the guy was going to get stale, he did everything on the indy scene, so it was good to have a new challenge, which was tna. This gives room for new talent, and gives them spotlight. The fact is the indies are doing great right now, at the same time have accepted the fact they are not going to be able to keep their wrestlers, and have accepted their position. The fact is losing these wrestlers have made the indies get better, forced them to create new stars. I would rather see Chris Hero leave the indies as a good wrestler, than a guy on the indies who is a shell of his former self and holding the scene down. The fact is the indy company's will be forced to continue putting on a good show with the threat of losing talent to another promotion and even lose that talent and build up others. I do not want the indies getting stale themselves and quite trying. Hell Sinclair does not want even get ROH a tv deal with anyone.

You can say the same for Aj and tna, even if the company was in good shape, it was good for him to do something new like New japan, he has never done that much in japan until 2014.

I think another national company is good, keeps wrestlers having something to shoot for.

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Re: Why there being a second national company does help the indy scene

Great topic, OP. I agree completely. If TNA goes under, and it most likely will, we NEED GFW to keep wrestling fresh. A lot of guys who may get rejected by WWE may get a second chance in GFW if Jeff and Karen don't act like complete retards with their company, and the wrestlers deserve that chance.



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Great topic, OP. I agree completely. If TNA goes under, and it most likely will, we NEED GFW to keep wrestling fresh. A lot of guys who may get rejected by WWE may get a second chance in GFW if Jeff and Karen don't act like complete retards with their company, and the wrestlers deserve that chance.
I agree I think indy wrestling needs it badly, it could use it badly.
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Great topic, OP. I agree completely. If TNA goes under, and it most likely will, we NEED GFW to keep wrestling fresh. A lot of guys who may get rejected by WWE may get a second chance in GFW if Jeff and Karen don't act like complete retards with their company, and the wrestlers deserve that chance.

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Re: Why there being a second national company does help the indy scene

I don't get it, dont see how this will help the indy scene overall. Force to create stars? They will have to create stars regardless of any situation. Are we talking about the big indies or local indies?

Now, I would like a national promotion to have the balls and to put over the indy promotions. If a guy on your roster has an indy or international belt, acknowledge that on tv. If a guy is a former NWA or ROH world champion, acknowledge that, put him over. To act like other promotions does not exist in 2014 is stupid to me. Its dumb, kind of childish. I am not saying every indy but the main ones like ROH,PWG,Chikara,Dragon Gate,NWA,etc.
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I don't get it, dont see how this will help the indy scene overall. Force to create stars? They will have to create stars regardless of any situation. Are we talking about the big indies or local indies?

Now, I would like a national promotion to have the balls and to put over the indy promotions. If a guy on your roster has an indy or international belt, acknowledge that on tv. If a guy is a former NWA or ROH world champion, acknowledge that, put him over. To act like other promotions does not exist in 2014 is stupid to me. Its dumb, kind of childish. I am not saying every indy but the main ones like ROH,PWG,Chikara,Dragon Gate,NWA,etc.
Here is the thing, do you see guys like Chris Hero, the guy is just there for a paycheck at this point and he use to be more passionate wrestlers out there, but not now he lost the passion with being realsed by wwe. If GFW becomes a success on the same level tna should be at righ tnow then it will make people like him get in better shape because there is a another national promotion that is not on the verge of going out of business he will have a new desire to get to a national promotion. If tna dies and GFW fails then a lot of wrestlers will just end up wrestling for the paychecks because they can't get to a national promotion, to me it is going to hamper the indy scene big time.
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Re: Why there being a second national company does help the indy scene

I always thought the goal of a wrestler is to make it to the WWE?

If TNA didn't motivate Chris Hero, I doubt Jeff other baby will. New Japan is not even checking for him. I think the only thing Chris cares about is the WWE and since he didn't make it, he is depress.
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Re: Why there being a second national company does help the indy scene

The main argument though is that no indy wrestling will ever land a great tvdeal like thursdays on spike with a million audience.

Ring of honor are held back by being owned by a broadcast tv company and they dont want.the show on cable tv anyway

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