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Help me to understand the Okada appeal.

I don't get it, he just hasn't clicked with me at all and the same can be said for tanahashi and nakamura

Shibata, makabe, goto, suzuki put on incredibly draining psychological battles and get 2 and a half stars yet okada gets 4/5 for most of his

So please help me understand his appeal and his character. Thanks

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Re: Help me to understand the Okada appeal.

He's a very solid wrestler, the crowd is into his character and he is being presented as a huge deal.

I'm not an expert on his character since I don't understand Japanese but basically he is all about generating more money for himself, which is somewhat against traditional Japanese pro wrestling values (which is meant to be bigger than just a paycheck), yet he has the talent and attitude to back up everything he says. He was a heel but he has won over the fans because of his attitude and his ability.

I agree that he is not necessarily above the rest of the talent but his booking and presentation is currently the best in NJPW. He's also much younger than the other top wrestlers and can carry the company for another decade if everything goes well. Not many wrestlers were as good as he is at 26 years of age. By comparison Suzuki is 46, Makabe is 41, Shibata is 34, Goto is 35.

I think he's one of the best at creating inventive finishes, but I'd like to see him work on his overall match structure a little bit before I start calling him a legend or anything like that. He does benefit from working great rivals as well. But being 26 years old and regularly putting on great matches in front of big crowds is just crazy.

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Re: Help me to understand the Okada appeal.

If you can't see it, it can't be explained. You don't have to like the guy. To me, he has everything...except a manly chest...beef it up like Tana's and he truly has everything.

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meh, so did Misawa. Aside from the legends (jumbo, kawada, taue, akiyama, kobashi) who did he really have any classics with? and he's considered one of, if not the best wrestler of all time by most people (not me, obviously). he had a couple great matches with Takayama, Hansen, and Vader but other than that, I cannot even name matches he was in that were great or even good.

Okada already has classics with Shinskay, Tanahashi, Naito, and lots of great matches sprinkled in vs the likes of Anderson, Goto, and more.

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Re: Help me to understand the Okada appeal.

Thanks for the input. I can see how and why gedo and jado are booking him the way they are. Incredible three year hotstreak and now they need to build new stars, I definitely think it's the charisma that I can't click with but he's here to stay so I'm sure I'll get there eventually

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After researching NJPW, I have come to the conclusion that Okada is the Japanese equivalent of Dolph Ziggler.....if he was a main eventer and not a fuckin jobber/mid-carder/not a main eventer.




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Re: Help me to understand the Okada appeal.

See to me, Makabe is a guy whose appeal I don't understand at all. Okada has awesome matches pretty consistently, comes off youthful and dynamic, has Gedo to talk for him and is presented as an absolute star.
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Re: Help me to understand the Okada appeal.

Basically he's the complete pro-wrestler imo. The best total package walking around, atleast to me, and he's just 26- so he's yet to hit his peak and will only get better.

He stands out from most of the rest in Japan due to his more "Americanized" style of wrestling, compared to the traditional strong style. Tbf, Tanahashi isn't a big advocate of strong style either, but Okada's look, presentation and mannerisms endear him to the Western Audience quicker than Tanahashi I think.

He is insanely athletic- his dropkick is gorgeous- his signature moves are all awesome, he is an amazing seller (probably the best at selling an arm injury). I like how most if not all of his moveset targets the head/neck region of his opponent setting up for the Rainmaker. And he knows how to work the crowd, when to time his comebacks, when to pull out a certain move etc. He makes the audience pop for something as simple as a flapjack or dropkick, which is incredible really. Plus, he can do a bit of everything- he can fly, he can exchange hard strikes with the best of em, he's got the size to believably use power moves against anyone and so on.

This is the first talent to make me an instant mark since I saw him. I think Okada is something special really. Tanahashi and Nakamura, I took some time to mark for them (and Naka's kinda fallen off for me, though I recognize Tana's greatness now), but I've been an Okada mark since the day I got into NJPW.




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Re: Help me to understand the Okada appeal.

I'm almost convinced that this is a troll post because you said you like guys like Makabe, Goto, and Shibata who have psychologically draining matches. Did you see Goto/Shibata? All that was, was Goto beating the fuck out of Shibata and him selling 0 of his offense outside of his ribs.

Also, they rarely ever get **1/2 matches. Not sure what you're talking about. All 3 are just boring as fuck IMO. Especially Goto. I can deal with Shibata when he's in a high profile match, but his character is just meh to me. Probably has to do with him not selling anything. Like I get it, you're a fucking bad ass. If you get dropped on your head, you shouldn't get right up and do the same thing to your opponent every single time.

Okada has insane charisma. He's arguably the best wrestler in the world. Rarely has a bad match. Connects with the crowd in ways that only Tanahashi and Nakamura do. List goes on and on. He's fucking unreal.
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