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No indy shows during WM31 week?

That was the word going around New Orleans, that WWE has clamped down and its deal in Santa Clara (and, presumably, at other Wrestlemania venues going forward) is that no other promotion can put on live wrestling shows (not sure if Wrestlecon will be allowed, or if it will have live matches if it does happen) in the city leading up to WM31.

I got this directly from someone working for ROH, who said they will have shows but they aren't sure where, that they will have to find a venue outside the sphere of whatever cities have agreed to WWE's demands of not licensing other shows. Heard the same thing elsewhere around town while doing the circuit.

The idea is that WWE feels like it is losing customers who would otherwise pay for Axxess and whatever else WWE has going on in the days leading up to its big show.

It's an absolute shame if this is how it is going to be going forward. I've been to two Wrestlemanias, and WWE got plenty of my money but half the fun was seeing these other shows -- watching the minor leagues, seeing up-and-coming talent in person that I have heard about, or a few guys on the way down who have had their day in the big leagues, and even got to see the end of a Shimmer show (let in free for the main event because we got there early for the next show, and got to see Cheerleader Melissa in person).

I'm not sure if I would go to another WM if the other shows aren't part of the week. I have no interest in paying money to stand in line to get my photo with WWE stars or get their autographs or whatever -- I know that's a big deal to a lot of people, but it's not my bag.

I would presume that other promotions will stage shows as close as they can, and I'm not sure if WWE got other surrounding cities to agree to the deal (they have a lot of power in choosing where to put WM, it's a huge economic boost to the host city, and if they say 'We're not coming if you don't get every city within 30 miles to agree' or whatever, they can probably pressure the local politicians to get it done), but to me it just wouldn't be worth it if the other shows aren't part of the experience.

Does anyone know anything about this, has anyone heard this?

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Re: No indy shows during WM31 week?

Smart by WWE, very sad for the indies though.
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Re: No indy shows during WM31 week?

WWE is making millions during WM weekend and they can't even give the indies some table scraps?

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Re: No indy shows during WM31 week?

WWE signed a no compete clause with the cities so any venue owned by the city can't run a wrestling show. As far as I know private venues would still be able to have wrestling shows.

I know Dragon Gate USA was bragging how close of a venue they had for WM weekend.

I've been to the last 4 Manias and I doubt I would go next year if WWE is the only company in town.
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Re: No indy shows during WM31 week?

If you had a business that makes the money that WWE does on Mania weekend you wouldn't let anyone else near you to sponge off YOUR hard work either. If you say you would you're either a liar or a terrible business person.

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Re: No indy shows during WM31 week?

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WWE signed a no compete clause with the cities so any venue owned by the city can't run a wrestling show. As far as I know private venues would still be able to have wrestling shows.

I know Dragon Gate USA was bragging how close of a venue they had for WM weekend.

I've been to the last 4 Manias and I doubt I would go next year if WWE is the only company in town.
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Yeah, massive bragging rights for Gabe next year having drawn an average of what, 200 per show in New Orleans? This is a slight blow to ROH, the rest is irrelevant.

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Re: No indy shows during WM31 week?

Yes, Gabe was bragging that he was in NOLA, a few miles from the Superdome, while ROH went to a much larger, much better arena in the New Orleans suburbs.

I attended both and you could have thrown a handful of salt at the DG USA show and not hit anyone. It was in a theater -- a place where Tulane puts on plays -- so the ring was up on the stage (with seats on three sides, and only two rows ringside) and the rest were out in the theater seats where you couldn't even see some of the action.

ROH was in a basketball-type arena with ample ringside seats, real bleachers, etc. They drew at least a couple thousand, perhaps a few thousand, for Supercard of Honor and maybe 1,000 or so for the TV tapings the next day. In both cases, ROH had more people seated at ringside than DG USA had scattered throughout the entire arena.

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Re: No indy shows during WM31 week?

The WWN venue was utter shit (not the Tulane campus, just the logistics and layout for wrestling), but Gabe is right to some degree: I was actually able to walk there from my hotel while my friends went to the HOF instead.
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Re: No indy shows during WM31 week?

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That was the word going around New Orleans, that WWE has clamped down and its deal in Santa Clara (and, presumably, at other Wrestlemania venues going forward) is that no other promotion can put on live wrestling shows (not sure if Wrestlecon will be allowed, or if it will have live matches if it does happen) in the city leading up to WM31.

I got this directly from someone working for ROH, who said they will have shows but they aren't sure where, that they will have to find a venue outside the sphere of whatever cities have agreed to WWE's demands of not licensing other shows. Heard the same thing elsewhere around town while doing the circuit.

The idea is that WWE feels like it is losing customers who would otherwise pay for Axxess and whatever else WWE has going on in the days leading up to its big show.

It's an absolute shame if this is how it is going to be going forward. I've been to two Wrestlemanias, and WWE got plenty of my money but half the fun was seeing these other shows -- watching the minor leagues, seeing up-and-coming talent in person that I have heard about, or a few guys on the way down who have had their day in the big leagues, and even got to see the end of a Shimmer show (let in free for the main event because we got there early for the next show, and got to see Cheerleader Melissa in person).

I'm not sure if I would go to another WM if the other shows aren't part of the week. I have no interest in paying money to stand in line to get my photo with WWE stars or get their autographs or whatever -- I know that's a big deal to a lot of people, but it's not my bag.

I would presume that other promotions will stage shows as close as they can, and I'm not sure if WWE got other surrounding cities to agree to the deal (they have a lot of power in choosing where to put WM, it's a huge economic boost to the host city, and if they say 'We're not coming if you don't get every city within 30 miles to agree' or whatever, they can probably pressure the local politicians to get it done), but to me it just wouldn't be worth it if the other shows aren't part of the experience.

Does anyone know anything about this, has anyone heard this?
This is bs. No way this could legally be done. The WWE can't limit what another venue or business plans to do. Only way this could somehow work is if one company owns all the venues. But there is no reason why the Cow Palace would need to comply with the WWE's request.
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